Beechwood fans from last year’s state game when ‘goalpost widths being narrower conversations’ come up

To be fair hasn’t every state final played had college uprights?

 

2 hours ago, Breds82 said:

To be fair hasn’t every state final played had college uprights?

Yeah, as far as I know that has been the case, plus it’s the same for both teams so not a huge controversy or anything.  I’m a Beechwood fan, so I love the win, but I do feel bad for that poor kicker that missed the XP.  Terrible way to lose an epic game.

On 10/21/2023 at 2:30 PM, theguru said:

All public schools are free so shouldn't they have the multiplier? 

Majority of public schools have set boundaries as well.

On 10/18/2023 at 9:35 PM, Jason Bucklen said:

L liked how the playoffs was before the RPI!  I think we should go back to East vs West in the finals. You alternate the semi finals every year like we used to. 

My only disagreement is that I think the data spells out that a lot of the state finals across all three six classes have been MUCH closer games since East vs. West ended and we went to RPI.  RPI isn't perfect by any means.  People here that are better at math than me have documented its flaws but it's done a good job getting the best 2 teams to the state finals and having that game take place there rather than round 3 or 4.

6 minutes ago, DanvilleFan said:

My only disagreement is that I think the data spells out that a lot of the state finals across all three six classes have been MUCH closer games since East vs. West ended and we went to RPI.  RPI isn't perfect by any means.  People here that are better at math than me have documented its flaws but it's done a good job getting the best 2 teams to the state finals and having that game take place there rather than round 3 or 4.

I agree to disagree to that. I think 6 classes is way too much. We should go back to 4 or 5. 
 

If you are good enough it doesn’t matter if you have to play on the road. For example my senior year in 1994 we were the 1 team in Class A all year long. We were undefeated as well. We went to Paris and Pikeville in the third and fourth round since it was our turn to travel. 

44 minutes ago, Jason Bucklen said:

I agree to disagree to that. I think 6 classes is way too much. We should go back to 4 or 5. 
 

If you are good enough it doesn’t matter if you have to play on the road. For example my senior year in 1994 we were the 1 team in Class A all year long. We were undefeated as well. We went to Paris and Pikeville in the third and fourth round since it was our turn to travel. 

Did you win state?

29 minutes ago, barrel said:

Did you win state?

Yeah we did. We beat Murray 18-16. 

In analyzing current 5A rankings based on Calpreps vs RPI there is little change.  Top 5 are exactly the same.  Highlands, Scott County, Bowling Green, South Warren and Southwestern.  Not sure changing makes a difference that is worth it.  While I enjoyed traveling to Western for many years having the Championships at UK to me is where they belong.  Definitely wouldn't grant a transfer waiver unless the student's family actually changed their primary residence.

I’m not reading all 6 pages. I think all playoff games after 1st round should be at neutral sites.

Interesting thought. Ohio had done this (may still do, or wait until the 3rd round). I know in Ohio it's on the Neutral site hosts to provide everything, as they get a cut of the gate.

On 10/17/2023 at 8:59 AM, Jumper_Dad said:

Now to be serious...

I don't see what is so wrong with high school football in Kentucky. Our issues have more to do with the way our population is spread across the state and the number of schools than anything. At this point there are only a handful of schools left that could be consolidated and that wouldn't really fix any of the issues most have.

We have 6 classes due to trying to keep enrollment sizes in each class reasonable. 

1A male enrollment is from 84 to 189

2A is 191 to 302

3A is 306 to 410

4A is 414 to 524

5A is 527 to 737

6A is 754 to 1192

I thought the 6 classes was in part because the big Louisville schools were so dominant more schools wanted to avoid them in the playoffs.    

I would lose the bye to move the playoffs up a week.  Other than that not sure there is a problem to fix.   Did like the suggestion of longer dead period and wouldn’t mind less spring football.  It’s high school.  
 

4 hours ago, GottaLuvFootball said:

I thought the 6 classes was in part because the big Louisville schools were so dominant more schools wanted to avoid them in the playoffs.    

I would lose the bye to move the playoffs up a week.  Other than that not sure there is a problem to fix.   Did like the suggestion of longer dead period and wouldn’t mind less spring football.  It’s high school.  
 

Big state schools still have to play big Louisville schools...6 classes had nothing to do with big schools avoiding Louisville. 

13 minutes ago, Jumper_Dad said:

Big state schools still have to play big Louisville schools...6 classes had nothing to do with big schools avoiding Louisville. 

They may not avoid them in the regular season, but the six class system has allowed teams to avoid the good Louisville teams in the playoffs more than the four class system. I definitely think there are some legs to getting teams other than Louisville teams in the big class finals that went into going to six classes. 

This year is a good example. Trinity and St. X will likely play in the second round. That eliminates one of them pretty much from the jump and gives a different team an opportunity. 

2 minutes ago, TheDeuce said:

They may not avoid them in the regular season, but the six class system has allowed teams to avoid the good Louisville teams in the playoffs more than the four class system. I definitely think there are some legs to getting teams other than Louisville teams in the big class finals that went into going to six classes. 

This year is a good example. Trinity and St. X will likely play in the second round. That eliminates one of them pretty much from the jump and gives a different team an opportunity. 

That has more to do with the current format (rotation of regions and RPI) than 6 classes. Just last season T and X were on opposite sides of the bracket.