RPI Tracking 2A

[Voice of Reason]

1 hour ago, Bud_Kilmer said:

To me it seems the best strategy for RPI among smaller schools who are decent is to schedule as many 5A and 6A cupcakes as possible. And they are out there especially in the western part of the state.

That is what is happening.

[Jason Bucklen]

1 hour ago, snakesnot_2000 said:

Mayfield can beat Beechwood at home. Away I'll give them about a 30% chance.

I’m just courious So why do you think they can beat them at home and not at Beechwood? 
 

 

[Voice of Reason]

KHSAA RPI as of October 16:

1	Lexington Christian	2A	4	8	-	0			9	1.11809	.72711	.62360	.83290
2	Beechwood	2A	6	8	-	0			9	1.21210	.45032	.58474	.75727
3	Mayfield	2A	1	8	-	0			9	1.17375	.43598	.54763	.72770
4	Green County	2A	3	8	-	0			9	1.01574	.37811	.53837	.64936
5	West Carter	2A	8	6	-	2			9	.75553	.65239	.48129	.63716
6	Middlesboro	2A	7	8	-	0			9	.90324	.45729	.50042	.62631
7	Danville	2A	4	6	-	3			9	.78786	.48261	.55999	.61266
8	Hancock County	2A	2	6	-	2			9	.89579	.37834	.54910	.61068
9	Caldwell County	2A	1	6	-	3			9	.70465	.50996	.52944	.58395
10	Butler County	2A	2	4	-	4			9	.65151	.55589	.50940	.57541
11	Murray	2A	1	5	-	2			9	.77697	.42154	.50467	.57088
12	Owensboro Catholic	2A	2	3	-	5			9	.38889	.75152	.49887	.54880
13	Walton-Verona	2A	5	5	-	3			8	.69009	.42853	.49952	.54138
14	Metcalfe County	2A	3	5	-	3			9	.67985	.40499	.50976	.53262
15	McLean County	2A	2	4	-	4			9	.61571	.45579	.48265	.51982

This week's results:

Beechwood 62 Lloyd Memorial 6

Mayfield 70 Ballard Memorial 6

Beechwood now leads Mayfield by .02957. Beechwood gained .02137 this week. 

 

Next week:

Beechwood vs. Newport (RPI 0.42958)

Mayfield vs. Murray (RPI .57088)

Murray's loss to Caldwell County caused them to lose RPI. Last week their RPI was .15 better than Newport's versus .14 this week. Minor loss in RPI for Murray versus Newport RPI. Mayfield should gain back points this week if both teams win. 

That will have Beechwood leading Mayfield in RPI by a little less than 0.01 heading into the final week. In that final week, will Mayfield beating a 4A team with a much weaker RPI than the RPI of Beechwood's top 5 1A team push Mayfield past Beechwood in RPI?

[Toothpick]

4 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

KHSAA RPI as of October 16:

1	Lexington Christian	2A	4	8	-	0			9	1.11809	.72711	.62360	.83290
2	Beechwood	2A	6	8	-	0			9	1.21210	.45032	.58474	.75727
3	Mayfield	2A	1	8	-	0			9	1.17375	.43598	.54763	.72770
4	Green County	2A	3	8	-	0			9	1.01574	.37811	.53837	.64936
5	West Carter	2A	8	6	-	2			9	.75553	.65239	.48129	.63716
6	Middlesboro	2A	7	8	-	0			9	.90324	.45729	.50042	.62631
7	Danville	2A	4	6	-	3			9	.78786	.48261	.55999	.61266
8	Hancock County	2A	2	6	-	2			9	.89579	.37834	.54910	.61068
9	Caldwell County	2A	1	6	-	3			9	.70465	.50996	.52944	.58395
10	Butler County	2A	2	4	-	4			9	.65151	.55589	.50940	.57541
11	Murray	2A	1	5	-	2			9	.77697	.42154	.50467	.57088
12	Owensboro Catholic	2A	2	3	-	5			9	.38889	.75152	.49887	.54880
13	Walton-Verona	2A	5	5	-	3			8	.69009	.42853	.49952	.54138
14	Metcalfe County	2A	3	5	-	3			9	.67985	.40499	.50976	.53262
15	McLean County	2A	2	4	-	4			9	.61571	.45579	.48265	.51982

This week's results:

Beechwood 62 Lloyd Memorial 6

Mayfield 70 Ballard Memorial 6

Beechwood now leads Mayfield by .02957. Beechwood gained .02137 this week. 

 

Next week:

Beechwood vs. Newport (RPI 0.42958)

Mayfield vs. Murray (RPI .57088)

Murray's loss to Caldwell County caused them to lose RPI. Last week their RPI was .15 better than Newport's versus .14 this week. Minor loss in RPI for Murray versus Newport RPI. Mayfield should gain back points this week if both teams win. 

That will have Beechwood leading Mayfield in RPI by a little less than 0.01 heading into the final week. In that final week, will Mayfield beating a 4A team with a much weaker RPI than the RPI of Beechwood's top 5 1A team push Mayfield past Beechwood in RPI?

That is what I think too but I am no expert.  

[Voice of Reason]

13 minutes ago, Toothpick said:

That is what I think too but I am no expert.  

This is working out to be a great example of KHSAA RPI. I'll wait till next week to lay out all the details. However, for a preview, the last week of the season Beechwood is going to play a team with an RPI that is significantly higher then the team Mayfield plays. Assuming they both win, I think Beechwood will lose RPI points to Mayfield. How does a team beat an opponent with a significantly higher RPI and lose ground?

[Toothpick]

Beating higher class is my understanding counts more than RPI rating.

[Voice of Reason]

33 minutes ago, Toothpick said:

Beating higher class is my understanding counts more than RPI rating.

Exactly. And that is where the problem is in KHSAA RPI. The size of the school is more important for RPI points than anything else. 

[BWTigers]

1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

This is working out to be a great example of KHSAA RPI. I'll wait till next week to lay out all the details. However, for a preview, the last week of the season Beechwood is going to play a team with an RPI that is significantly higher then the team Mayfield plays. Assuming they both win, I think Beechwood will lose RPI points to Mayfield. How does a team beat an opponent with a significantly higher RPI and lose ground?

That’s what’s wrong with the system. Beechwood just needs to schedule all 6A scrubs and they will never have to worry about not hosting a state semifinal game. 

[Voice of Reason]

1 minute ago, BWTigers said:

That’s what’s wrong with the system. Beechwood just needs to schedule all 6A scrubs and they will never have to worry about not hosting a state semifinal game. 

Correct. Beechwood would get more RPI points beating Boone County than beating New Cath.

[gbballfan21]

6 minutes ago, BWTigers said:

That’s what’s wrong with the system. Beechwood just needs to schedule all 6A scrubs and they will never have to worry about not hosting a state semifinal game. 

There are no 6A scrubs lining up to play Beechwood. Scheduling for Beechwood is always tough, and the RPI is making it extremely tough to find willing dance partners that make sense.

[Toothpick]

On 10/16/2021 at 2:20 PM, gbballfan21 said:

There are no 6A scrubs lining up to play Beechwood. Scheduling for Beechwood is always tough, and the RPI is making it extremely tough to find willing dance partners that make sense.

This problem is not unique to Beechwood, Mayfield has the same problem.  Playing neighbor Marshall County for example would be a huge RPI boost for Mayfield but Marshall County would not hear of it and nobody wants to see it either.  In the much more rural area of the state Mayfield has to be mineful or travel.  A obvious soultion is play some out of state teams but that too is a problem under the current system because its a diaster to your RPI win or lose.  I hope the powers that be fix these and other issues with the RPI system.  It will improve the quality of competition on who you are willing to schedule.  Other wise its going to get to the point that everyone is trying to play as many Marshall Counties as possible.  

[zoneblitz2]

I know we are focusing on Mayfield and Beechwood but I find it comical that two teams that Owensboro Catholic beat by an average of 40 points are ahead of them in the RPI. 

[gbballfan21]

12 minutes ago, Toothpick said:

This problem is not unique to Beechwood, Mayfield has the same problem.  Playing neighbor Marshall County for example would be a huge RPI boost for Mayfield but Marshall County would not hear of it and nobody wants to see it either.  In the much more rural area of the state Mayfield has to be mineful or travel.  A obvious soultion is play some out of state teams but that too is a problem under the current system because its a diaster to your RPI win or lose.  I hope the powers that be fix these and other issues with the RPI system.  It will improve the quality of competition on who you are willing to schedule.  Other wise its going to get to the point that everyone is trying to play as many Marshall Counties as possible.  

100% correct!!!

I talked about the issues that Beechwood, Mayfield, LCA, Pikeville, etc. will face going forward as they try to fill out schedules in a previous thread about this topic. Something has to be done to address the issues with the RPI system.

[Tones]

I think Calpreps has it right

 

Rank	School	W-L	League W-L	Division W-L	Rating	Schedule Strength	Opponents' W-L
1	Lexington Christian	8-0	2-0	2-0	54.5	16.6	41-26
2	Beechwood	8-0	2-0	3-0	34	-1.2	25-40
3	Mayfield	8-0	3-0	3-0	25	-9.3	23-41

[Voice of Reason]

2 hours ago, zoneblitz2 said:

I know we are focusing on Mayfield and Beechwood but I find it comical that two teams that Owensboro Catholic beat by an average of 40 points are ahead of them in the RPI. 

Thanks for sharing that. The purpose of this thread is to show clear examples of the flaw of KHSAA RPI. I could see what I thought was coming in 2A with Beechwood and Mayfield and thought it would be a great way to show the flaw. You and everyone else can share other examples in this thread all you want. It just adds more to the case against the current RPI structure.