May 4, 20206 yr Postseason bans make a lot more sense than taking away titles. Has anyone else received notice? LSU? Arizona? Kansas?
May 4, 20206 yr Author Postseason bans make a lot more sense than taking away titles. Has anyone else received notice? LSU? Arizona? Kansas? Post-season bans make sense if there are still people affiliated with the program that were involved in the violation. I'm pretty sure Kansas got one, and they proceeded to have their midnight madness event complete with Snoop Dogg, stipper poles and cannons shooting out money.
May 4, 20206 yr I'm pretty sure Kansas got one, and they proceeded to have their midnight madness event complete with Snoop Dogg, stipper poles and cannons shooting out money. I forgot about that. Sheesh.
May 4, 20206 yr I never know what the right answer is to these situations. If a program really did violate a big rule, I have never been a proponent of vacating wins or post-season bans. The first means nothing, the second punishes innocent folks. Reducing scholarships again punishes a group not involved. That's not justice.
May 4, 20206 yr It will be interesting to see what happens with Kenny Johnson and Rick Pitino, both of whom are head coaches at new schools now. Agree, could get very interesting.
May 4, 20206 yr I never know what the right answer is to these situations. If a program really did violate a big rule, I have never been a proponent of vacating wins or post-season bans. The first means nothing, the second punishes innocent folks. Reducing scholarships again punishes a group not involved. That's not justice. When everyone involved is long gone, there’s no point in pursuing it any further to me.
May 4, 20206 yr When everyone involved is long gone, there’s no point in pursuing it any further to me. That seems like the right answer, but I suppose there is very little deterrent. These investigations take multiple years to conduct, so the characters are generally always gone by then. And say a coach did something bad and one player, absent of the others in the program, those individuals will be gone and the non-violators are the ones left to clean up the mess.
May 4, 20206 yr One thing being made clear, UofL will not just roll over and take whatever the NCAA gives like they did the first time. Will that make any difference? Likely not. I said it after the first UL fiasco and I’ll say it again. If they rollover and allow the NCAA to do as they please again, then they deserve to have their entire athletic program shutdown. UNC gave everyone the perfect blueprint for these situations.... lawyer up and deny everything. Make the NCAA prove it all.
May 4, 20206 yr I also agree with those who believe that post season bans are ridiculous and only punish those who are innocent. I’m okay with stripping titles, it’s an embarrassment that the university has to carry with them. I’m not sure I agree with huge fines as I believe these are probably just passed down to the traditional students who attend the school. My only solution would be to absolutely cripple a school with recruiting restrictions for a period of time. Let them field a team of non scholarship walk-ons for a few years. Most people cheat to win. Making it nearly impossible for a University who was caught cheating to compete for a few years seems like a just penalty to me.
May 4, 20206 yr Postseason bans make a lot more sense than taking away titles. Has anyone else received notice? LSU? Arizona? Kansas? Kansas NC State Louisville Oklahoma State South Carolina USC TCU Those are the ones we know have received notices so far on this Adidas business. It's been widely reported that the NCAA is still working on Arizona and LSU. It honestly looks like they're working from the easiest cases to the most difficult (or at least most complex and far-ranging).
May 4, 20206 yr Author UNC gave everyone the perfect blueprint for these situations.... lawyer up and deny everything. Make the NCAA prove it all. Louisville has hired the same firm that worked UNC's case.
May 4, 20206 yr Louisville has hired the same firm that worked UNC's case. Best money they’ll ever spend.
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