THE SHERIFF Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I am not saying that the reason for the decrease is because of more required paper work, there's no way for anybody to really know if that's the case. But man, if that were true, that would be a scary thought. The department spokesperson suggested that the majority of the change was due to the paperwork requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 The department spokesperson suggested that the majority of the change was due to the paperwork requirements. That's a bad look. And a lazy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jericho Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 So people are upset that the police arrest people and mad when they dotn arrest people. People protest when cops arrest someone and protest when they dont. I thought people in Chicago wanted to be left alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE SHERIFF Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 That's a bad look. And a lazy one. Agreed. It's also human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 The department spokesperson suggested that the majority of the change was due to the paperwork requirements. That's what caught my attention from the article. That's why I asked the PR question. That's a tough answer to give to the public you're supposed to police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleluck55 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I wonder if the additional paperwork opens up officers to more liability. If I sign my name to something for the way I remember it, but it didn't happen 100% that way, am I open to be sued, charged or fired. If this is the case, do I take the chance on something minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE SHERIFF Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 That's what caught my attention from the article. That's why I asked the PR question. That's a tough answer to give to the public you're supposed to police. It is tough and honest. I would suspect if you went into Ford Motor Company and increased the amount of paperwork for the production workers you would see a decrease in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 That's a bad look. And a lazy one. So your take is that they are making less arrest because they don't want to do the added paper work? Because they are Lazy? Another way to look at it could be that they are tied up longer on each arrest doing additional paperwork that it's pulling them from the streets longer after each arrest. If the average arrest time increases just an half hour per arrest (due to additional paperwork), that is several hours less each week that officers have to be on the street. Less time on the street equals less arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 So your take is that they are making less arrest because they don't want to do the added paper work? Because they are Lazy? Another way to look at it could be that they are tied up longer on each arrest doing additional paperwork that it's pulling them from the streets longer after each arrest. If the average arrest time increases just an half hour per arrest (due to additional paperwork), that is several hours less each week that officers have to be on the street. Less time on the street equals less arrest. It's one of those two options. Both are plausible, IMO. One is inexcusable. How would we ever determine if the arrests are down because they are tied up doing paper work, versus not making arrests to avoid paper work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE SHERIFF Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 It's one of those two options. Both are plausible, IMO. One is inexcusable. How would we ever determine if the arrests are down because they are tied up doing paper work, versus not making arrests to avoid paper work? Why wouldn't we think it's a combination of both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumper_Dad Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 It's one of those two options. Both are plausible, IMO. One is inexcusable. How would we ever determine if the arrests are down because they are tied up doing paper work, versus not making arrests to avoid paper work? Supervisors on the streets (Sgts. and LTs.) can easily track their officers actions. They know if they are tied up doing paperwork versus driving around doing nothing. I'd guess if any arrest are not being made it could be for minor things that most people don't think should be arrestable anyways. I wonder how citations to court are now compared to before, are more being cited to court instead of being arrested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00Rocket28 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 It's one of those two options. Both are plausible, IMO. One is inexcusable. How would we ever determine if the arrests are down because they are tied up doing paper work, versus not making arrests to avoid paper work? It's easy really. All they have to do is check the times through their dispatching system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jericho Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Seems to me the Black Panther Party should go into the black neighborhoods and clean it up from gangs and drugs and establish a better neighborhood for the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scribe Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Put your PR hat/spokesperson hat on. You are in said role for the CPD. How do you respond the question "Why are you not making as many stops as you previously did?" **clears throat** I wouldn't say we are stopping fewer cars. Overall crime has been on a downward trend in Chicago in the past five years. However, gun violence has risen here in the past year as it has in just about every major metropolitan city. Orlando, Boston, Louisville, Las Vegas -- just a few of the major cities that have seen a larger increase in gun violence than here in Chicago. Violent Crime in Chicago has decreased 61% in the past 15 years. It's down 11% in the past five years. Property Crimes in Chicago are down 81% over the past 15 years and down 49% over the past five years. Quality of Life Crimes in Chicago are down 143% in the past 15 years and down 88% in the past five years. Quite simply. When reported crimes decrease, so do arrests. This has been accomplished despite changes in administration and leadership at the top of the department. The Chicago Police Department has made a proactive effort to protect the citizens and their property despite a cut in staffing. In 1995, there were 13,344 sworn officers in Chicago. In 2010, that number has dropped to 12,515. In 2012, there were less than 12,000 sworn officers. While the number of officers has dropped, the population has risen and with it, so has the number of guns available to these residents. I like to look at the big picture. Overall crime in Chicago is down despite a decrease in officer staffing. We have programs in place that have proven to be successful. While the homicide rate is not where we want it to be, the overall crime rate has shown a five-year decline Thank you And yes, the numbers are accurate, taken from the Chicago Tribune database and the Chicago Police Department web page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 It is tough and honest. I would suspect if you went into Ford Motor Company and increased the amount of paperwork for the production workers you would see a decrease in production. Is time the issue with paperwork or is it a case of "it's a hassle and it's just easier to let them shoot each other?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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