Hearsay Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Bottom one percent of the graduating class. McCain is not the sharpest tool in the shed but I am sure that he could have done much better had he applied himself at Annapolis. I do believe that McCain is smarter than Hagel=, but Obama's surrogates will make an issue of McCain's class rank. I don't care where he held class rank, you don't graduate from Annapolis without having something on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I think they make fun of him as a Annapolis graduate irregardless of his ranking would backfire. It would be used as once again Obama having no clue about anything military and showing his lack of experience with the military side of issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75center Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 If McCain wasn't so pro-Iraq War, none of that "third Bush term" talk would stick. Yep, given his background I can see why he's "pro war". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westsider Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Bottom one percent of the graduating class. McCain is not the sharpest tool in the shed but I am sure that he could have done much better had he applied himself at Annapolis. I do believe that McCain is smarter than Hagel=, but Obama's surrogates will make an issue of McCain's class rank.Which would put you in the same category as Obama's surrogates ... ain't that some irony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcesFull Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Which would put you in the same category as Obama's surrogates ... Any party who would try to pass John Kerry off as an intellectual political moderate is certainly not going to pass on taking shots at McCain's academic record. However, having Chuck Hagel upset with him will probably help McCain among conservatives. In fact, if McCain is smart he will figure out a way to have Hagel give a series of speeches criticizing him. If there was any Republican in the US Senate less popular among conservatives than John McCain it would be Hagel (although Lindsey Graham is a strong contender). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westsider Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Any party who would try to pass John Kerry off as an intellectual political moderate is certainly not going to pass on taking shots at McCain's academic record.Interesting, though, that I've only seen the issue raised twice ... both times were by you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO CATS Posted May 24, 2008 Author Share Posted May 24, 2008 I also don't get the "McCain isn't smart enough" stuff. Dude is a Naval Academy grad. I don't care who you are, you don't get out of Annapolis as a dummy. Smartest prez candidate in many years. Now, he may be old, but he's not dumb. Who said he was not smart enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cch5432 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Chuck Hagel, Republican Senator from Nebraska seems to be upset with decisions John McCain is making. "Presidential candidates will say many things in a campaign," Hagel added. "I am very upset with John about some of things he is saying... He is smarter than some of the things he is saying." http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/05/20/hagel_suggests_mccain_will_cha.html I'm not sure that he is... At this stage in his life he's not! Who said he was not smart enough?You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO CATS Posted May 24, 2008 Author Share Posted May 24, 2008 During this portion of the campain hes not, hes ran a horrible campain since he won the primary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 He is smart to disassociate himself with Hagel. It won't hurt him imo. I've watched Hagel a few times on TV with all his charts and so on, and he is some character, to say the least. Guys like him, Benny Henn, and the guy who's always predicting the end of time (I can't remember his name but he's made about 10 'end of time' predictions since the early '80's. His latest one has it now ending in 2012), give other preachers/ministers/priest, etc, a lot of headaches with PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Yep, given his background I can see why he's "pro war". Simple statements of fact: 1) A sizable majority of the American public is against the Iraq War and 2) The war has come to define the Bush presidency. Regardless of McCain's other policy departures from Bush, his stubborn insistence on continuing the war ad infinitum (and clearly ignoring the wishes of the American people, a la Bush), renders him an easy target for the "third Bush term" tagline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcesFull Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Simple statements of fact: 1) A sizable majority of the American public is against the Iraq War and 2) The war has come to define the Bush presidency. Regardless of McCain's other policy departures from Bush, his stubborn insistence on continuing the war ad infinitum (and clearly ignoring the wishes of the American people, a la Bush), renders him an easy target for the "third Bush term" tagline.Americans generally do not oppose war - they oppose losing wars. It is getting increasingly difficult for Obama and other liberals to convince voters that things we are losing the war or that Democrats would quickly withdraw from Iraq as they have promised. Congressman admits Democrats "stretched the facts," misled anti-war supporters about supposed plans for ending War "I'll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we...the Democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn't say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, we could stop the war. Now anybody was a good student of Government would know that wasn't true. But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts...and people ate it up." - Congressman Paul Kanjorski (D-PA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GO CATS Posted May 26, 2008 Author Share Posted May 26, 2008 He is smart to disassociate himself with Hagel. It won't hurt him imo. I've watched Hagel a few times on TV with all his charts and so on, and he is some character, to say the least. Guys like him, Benny Henn, and the guy who's always predicting the end of time (I can't remember his name but he's made about 10 'end of time' predictions since the early '80's. His latest one has it now ending in 2012), give other preachers/ministers/priest, etc, a lot of headaches with PR. Hagel is currently a "maverick," something McCain used to be, Hagels support would only help McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cch5432 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 He is smart to disassociate himself with Hagel. It won't hurt him imo. I've watched Hagel a few times on TV with all his charts and so on, and he is some character, to say the least. Guys like him, Benny Henn, and the guy who's always predicting the end of time (I can't remember his name but he's made about 10 'end of time' predictions since the early '80's. His latest one has it now ending in 2012), give other preachers/ministers/priest, etc, a lot of headaches with PR. Maybe I am missing something....is Hagel is a minister? I thought he was a Senator. Anyways, he wouldn't mind running as the Democratic VP, so I guess it is good for McCain to disassociate himself, if he wants to get conservatives to vote for him. Then again, having an anti-war person on the ticket could get some votes, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cch5432 Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Hagel is currently a "maverick," something McCain used to be, Hagels support would only help McCain. What exactly do you mean when you say maverick? Someone who crosses political boundaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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