Is Adam Dunn becoming the face of the Reds?

[malachicrunch]

This is not a knock against Dunn, but the Reds should market Phillips as the "face" of the franchise.

 

Because he's the best player on the team:thumb:

[bigblueinsanity]

Besides, chicks dig the long ball.

 

:laugh:..that may be true.

 

 

The new face of the Reds is

 

 

 

 

BRANDON PHILLIPS! :ylsuper::ylsuper::ylsuper:

[STRIKE3]

Phillips, will in time be an outstanding Reds player and perennial All-Star. I don't see Dunn, as willing to be a media/promotional player.

 

I'm glad he is staying.

[cshs81]

If the faces were not important would we have the different bobbleheads and the Arroyo hair nights, etc that are so succesful?

 

You've got it backwards. Bobbleheads are so important because we can't win enough to draw fans. If we win, we need no faces. Fans will come to see the winning product and the byproduct of that will be more hats, jerseys, cokes, beers, and hot dogs.

[cshs81]

Well ARod is the highest paid but Jeter is the face. ?

 

ARod was not the highest paid player on the Yanks this year.

[cshs81]

Paying Dunn $15 mill/yr. AND getting "pitching" while keeping payroll under control won't work for a market as small as Cincy's.

 

Two things MUST be present for a small market team to contend:

 

1. Superior minor league talent and coaching.

2. Great talent evaluation (from high school level -home and abroad- through eval. other teams' players)

 

Use #1 and #2 to develop from WITHIN and sign young players to long-term contracts before they bloom.

 

If these 2 necessities aren't present, the difference must be made up with more $$$$.

 

FWIW... The Reds don't have #1 or #2, and won't spend $$$$.

 

I agree with most of the above. Fortunately for the Reds, they're in a division that allows them the chance to compete without DRASTIC improvements. If they just improve their pitching " a bit" , especially in the pen, they're contenders.

 

Big Bog says he will open the checkbook this coming season. We'll see.

[STRIKE3]

ARod was not the highest paid player on the Yanks this year.

Are you sure....

 

PLAYERSALARY (US$)1. Alex Rodriguez 27,708,525

2 Jason Giambi 23,428,571

3. Derek Jeter 21,600,000

4. Andy Pettitte 16,000,000

5. Bobby Abreu 15,600,000

6. Johnny Damon 13,000,000

7. Hideki Matsui 13,000,000

8. Jorge Posada 12,000,000

9. Mike Mussina 11,070,423

10. Mariano Rivera10,500,000

11. Carl Pavano 10,000,000

12. Kyle Farnsworth 5,666,667

13. Luis Vizcaino 3,000,000

14. Doug Mientkiewicz 1,500,000

15. Jose Molina 1,350,000

16. Robinson Cano 490,800

17. Chien-Ming Wang 489,500

18. Melky Cabrera 432,400

19. Wilson Betemit 405,000

20. Darrell Rasner384,523

21. Jose Veras 382,475

22. Humberto Sanchez 380,000

[malachicrunch]

Phillips, will in time be an outstanding Reds player and perennial All-Star. I don't see Dunn, as willing to be a media/promotional player.

 

I'm glad he is staying.

 

I agree. Even with the part about Dunn staying. Dunn could be a very big part of a good ball club. Unfortunately most of the other parts are not in Cincinnati. If the OF is again Dunn, Jr, and Hamilton thats a problem.

C. is bad at best.

Starting pitching After Harang is mediocre. After Arroyo is putrid

 

Bullpen ? I'm afraid Stormy becomes afflicted with Stanton disease (old age)

As is this club struggles again.

What was that?

Wait for 2009? Yeah why not we've been waiting for almost 2 decades now, whats another couple of lost seasons?

[cshs81]

Are you sure....

 

PLAYERSALARY (US$)1. Alex Rodriguez 27,708,525

2 Jason Giambi 23,428,571

 

I'm pretty sure Giambi took home more pay this year. Part of the $27M for ARod is deferred.

[gametime]

I'm pretty sure Giambi took home more pay this year. Part of the $27M for ARod is deferred.

 

I don't think AROD is a deferred. Texas is just still paying a pretty large chunk of it...

[malachicrunch]

I'm pretty sure Giambi took home more pay this year. Part of the $27M for ARod is deferred.

 

You must be counting Giambi's steroid kickbacks:D

[STRIKE3]

I'm pretty sure Giambi took home more pay this year. Part of the $27M for ARod is deferred.

Here is a link....

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/salaries?team=nyy

[cshs81]

Here is a link....

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/salaries?team=nyy

 

The $27M includes $4M that is deferred to a later time according to this:

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/mlbfs41.htm

[gametime]

The $27M includes $4M that is deferred to a later time according to this:

 

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/mlbfs41.htm

I had never seen that. Thanks...

[oneijoe]

Here is a link....

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/salaries?team=nyy

 

That is one ridiculous contract... That's more than 1/2 the entire Indian team payroll !!!

 

:eek:

 

But deferred money or not, it's still money in the bank. That means he IS the highest paid on the team.