1 hour ago, The Raven said:

Toronto is the only other place I can imagine Votto playing.

Is that a fit though?  They've got Vlad Jr. at first base and Teoscar Hernandez at DH.  

Reds Lineup?
1B - Votto
2B - India
SS - Farmer, Barrero
3B - Senzel, Farmer, Moustakas
LF - Aquino, Schrock, Naquin
CF - Senzel, Akiyama
RF - Naquin, Aquino
C - Stephenson
DH - Moustakas, Schrock
SP - Castillo, Mahle, Greene, Gutierrez, Lodolo, Santillian, Sanmartin, O'Brien, Antone, Petty
RP - Garrett?, ??
 

thoughts?

42 minutes ago, 16thBBall Fan said:

Reds Lineup?
1B - Votto
2B - India
SS - Farmer, Barrero
3B - Senzel, Farmer, Moustakas
LF - Aquino, Schrock, Naquin
CF - Senzel, Akiyama
RF - Naquin, Aquino
C - Stephenson
DH - Moustakas, Schrock
SP - Castillo, Mahle, Greene, Gutierrez, Lodolo, Santillian, Sanmartin, O'Brien, Antone, Petty
RP - Garrett?, ??
 

thoughts?

A bad bad bad baseball team.

11 hours ago, 4 Quarters said:

Big Bob is selling off some of his other businesses, could the Reds be next.

Might as well.  Friend of mine said that he's treating the Reds like week-old produce anyway.

10 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

I won't swear them off forever but I have a lot of anger at what they are doing. No way I pay to walk in that ballpark for the near future. I have almost no interest in even watching games till they put a product worth watching on the field.

Absolutely 1000% this.

I understand getting rid of Suarez, and Sonny Gray never impressed me much... but Winker?  I believe he is arbitration eligible but isn't free agent eligible for 2 more years.  That tells me that this rebuild is expected to take at least 3 years.  There will then be a 2-3 year window to win and after which it starts all over again.  Reds baseball... It's fan-tastic!

Will we even recognize the Redlegs this season?

15 minutes ago, REALSPORT said:

I understand getting rid of Suarez, and Sonny Gray never impressed me much... but Winker?  I believe he is arbitration eligible but isn't free agent eligible for 2 more years.  That tells me that this rebuild is expected to take at least 3 years.  There will then be a 2-3 year window to win and after which it starts all over again.  Reds baseball... It's fan-tastic!

Unfortunately I think that's a cycle that Reds fans need to get used to.  Terrible for 3-5 years and then a 1-3 year window to maybe make a little playoff noise.

2 hours ago, 16thBBall Fan said:

Reds Lineup?
1B - Votto
2B - India
SS - Farmer, Barrero
3B - Senzel, Farmer, Moustakas
LF - Aquino, Schrock, Naquin
CF - Senzel, Akiyama
RF - Naquin, Aquino
C - Stephenson
DH - Moustakas, Schrock
SP - Castillo, Mahle, Greene, Gutierrez, Lodolo, Santillian, Sanmartin, O'Brien, Antone, Petty
RP - Garrett?, ??
 

thoughts?

The way things are going, it won't surprise me if Castillo or Mahle aren't shipped out as well, and whoever gets them is going to get Moustakas as well.  That way ol' Bob can save another $20+ mil.

 

SELL THE TEAM, BOB!!

13 minutes ago, mcpapa said:

Will we even recognize the Redlegs this season?

It's reminding me of that scene from Major League...who are these guys?

 

 

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11 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

I won't swear them off forever but I have a lot of anger at what they are doing. No way I pay to walk in that ballpark for the near future. I have almost no interest in even watching games till they put a product worth watching on the field.

My guess they acknowledge this.  They will suck people in with India, Votto, Stephenson, and the occasional Aquino homer.  There’s only so much to do in Cincy in the summer.

They can’t do it but I wish they would tell us how they felt about the team. It looks like they didn’t feel like they had a serious winner.  I know they were close. New direction is collect young arms like the Tigers and the Braves somewhat.  

Shogo, Moose and Votto still have ugly contracts.  I think people are angry because they sold so early, instead of playing it out until mid-summer.  

If you're wondering who's next on the chopping block...here's the top 7 remaining 2022 salaries:

1. Joey Votto ($25 million)

2. Mike Moustakous ($16 million)

3. Shogo Akiyama ($8 million)

4. Luis Castillo ($7.5 million)

5. Tyler Mahle ($5.5 million)

6. Ken Griffey Jr. ($3.6 million)

7. Tyler Naquin ($3.5 million)

 

I think Junior's the only one assured of not getting a call from Bob.  (Although, I'm sure if he could trade him...he would, again.)

Just now, CincySportsFan said:

If you're wondering who's next on the chopping block...here's the top 7 remaining 2022 salaries:

1. Joey Votto ($25 million)

2. Mike Moustakous ($16 million)

3. Shogo Akiyama ($8 million)

4. Luis Castillo ($7.5 million)

5. Tyler Mahle ($5.5 million)

6. Ken Griffey Jr. ($3.6 million)

7. Tyler Naquin ($3.5 million)

 

I think Junior's the only one assured of not getting a call from Bob.  (Although, I'm sure if he could trade him...he would, again.)

Bob isn't the one making the calls to them, unfortunately. At least then he may feel a bit of remorse. 

Actually, Bob (and everyone else) is talking so little that there was a quote from Votto earlier who is usually tight lipped on such things that said he "isn't sure if the moves are even done." When you can't even clue your franchise player into what direction you're headed there isn't much communication happening. 

The Reds are continuing to rebuild the organization......to become the Cincinnati Pirates.

 

25 minutes ago, ChickenWyngz said:

Bob isn't the one making the calls to them, unfortunately. At least then he may feel a bit of remorse. 

Very true.  It really makes me wonder now, if Dick Williams wasn't privy to this coming down the pike, and leaving beforehand, not wanting to be a part of it.