Coronavirus

[Voice of Reason]

Sure. Agree their lies hurt. But we have states in the US that dragged their feet on this, and many people who are still doubters.

 

Why did South Korea and Germany do so much better with the same set of lies from China?

 

There are many more problems here in the US that go beyond China's lies.

 

Good point. Strike Vietnam and Taiwan. Not valid comparisons. Correction made.

[halfback20]

The death rate is too high and hopefully goes down...but it is likely lower due to people having the disease and not showing symptoms or not getting tested. I'd guess we have far more than 800 cases right now.

[swamprat]

As of EOB yesterday, there were 11,111 cases and 191 deaths in Florida. Less than 1350 of those cases had resulted in hospitalization.

 

In the Tampa Bay Area, there were 1063 cases and 17 deaths. 150 of the cases ended up in the hospital. The TBA has a little more than 10,000 hospital beds with 50% availability and has added another 300 available beds utilizing the Yuengling Center on the USF campus. There are almost 900 ICU beds available with more than 50% availability.

[Colonels_Wear_Blue]

Since Kentucky's first reported case of COVID-19, here's a comparison of how the Kentucky numbers compare to things nationally. There should be some lag, by nature, because the United States' index case was confirmed on January 15th and Kentucky' index case was confirmed 50 days later on March 6th.

 

March 6

KY - 1 case; 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 214 cases; 15 deaths (7.01% mortality rate)

 

March 7

KY - 1 case (00.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 279 cases (30.37% increase); 19 deaths (6.81% mortality rate)

March 8

KY - 4 cases (300.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 423 cases (51.61% increase); 22 deaths (5.20% mortality rate)

March 9

KY - 6 cases (50.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 647 cases (52.96% increase); 26 deaths (4.02% mortality rate)

March 10

KY - 8 cases (33.33% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 937 cases (44.82% increase); 30 deaths (3.20% mortality rate)

 

March 11

KY - 8 cases (0.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 1215 cases (29.67% increase); 38 deaths (3.13% mortality rate)

March 12

KY - 11 cases (37.50% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 1629 cases (34.07% increase); 41 deaths (2.52% mortality rate)

March 13

KY - 14 cases (27.27% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 1896 cases (16.39% increase); 48 deaths (2.53% mortality rate)

 

March 14

KY - 16 cases (14.29% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 2234 cases (17.83% increase); 57 deaths (2.55% mortality rate)

March 15

KY - 20 cases (25.00% increase); 0 deaths (0% mortality rate)

US - 3487 cases (56.09% increase); 69 deaths (1.98 mortality rate)

March 16

KY - 22 cases (10.00% increase); 1 death (4.55% mortality rate)

US - 4226 cases (21.19% increase); 87 deaths (2.06% mortality rate)

 

March 17

KY - 26 cases (18.18% increase); 1 death (3.85% mortality rate)

US - 7038 cases (66.54% increase); 110 deaths (1.56% mortality rate)

March 18

KY - 35 cases (34.62% increase); 1 death (2.56% mortality rate)

US - 10442 cases (48.37% increase); 150 deaths (1.44% mortality rate)

 

March 19

KY - 40 cases (14.29% increase); 2 deaths (5.00% mortality rate)

US - 15219 cases (45.75% increase); 206 deaths (1.35% mortality rate)

March 20

KY - 48 cases (20.00% increase); 3 deaths (6.25% mortality rate)

US - 18747 cases (23.18% increase); 255 deaths (1.35% mortality rate)

March 21

KY - 63 cases (31.25% increase); 3 deaths (4.76% mortality rate)

US - 24583 cases (31.13% increase); 301 deaths (1.22% mortality rate)

March 22

KY - 99 cases (57.14% increase); 3 deaths (3.03% mortality rate)

US - 33404 cases (35.88% increase); 400 deaths (1.19% mortality rate)

March 23

KY - 124 cases (25.25% increase); 4 deaths (3.23% mortality rate)

US - 44183 cases (32.27% increase); 544 deaths (1.23% mortality rate)

March 24

KY - 163 cases (31.45% increase); 4 deaths (2.45% mortality rate)

US - 54453 cases (23.24% increase); 737 deaths (1.35% mortality rate)

March 25

KY - 198 cases (21.47% increase); 5 deaths (2.52% mortality rate)

US - 68440 cases (25.69% increase); 994 deaths (1.45% mortality rate)

 

March 26

KY - 248 cases (25.25% increase); 5 deaths (2.01% mortality rate)

US - 85356 cases (24.72% increase); 1246 deaths (1.46% mortality rate)

March 27

KY - 302 cases (21.77% increase); 7 deaths (2.32% mortality rate)

US - 103321 cases (21.05% increase); 1668 deaths (1.61% mortaility rate)

 

March 28

KY - 394 cases (30.46% increase); 7 deaths (1.78% mortality rate)

US - 122653 cases (18.71% increase); 2112 deaths (1.72% mortality rate)

 

March 29

KY - 439 cases (11.42% increase); 8 deaths (1.82% mortality rate)

US - 140904 cases (14.88% increase); 2405 deaths (1.71% mortality rate)

 

March 30

KY - 480 cases (9.34% increase); 11 deaths (2.29% mortality rate)

US - 163539 cases (16.06% increase); 2860 deaths (1.75% mortality rate)

 

March 31

KY - 591 cases (23.13% increase); 17 deaths (2.88% mortality rate)

US - 186101 cases (13.80% increase); 3603 deaths (1.94% mortality rate)

 

April 1

KY - 680 cases (15.06% increase); 20 deaths (2.94% mortality rate)

US - 213144 cases (14.53% increase); 4512 deaths (2.12% mortality rate)

 

April 2

KY - 780 cases (14.71% increase); 31 deaths (3.97% mortality rate)

US - 239279 cases (12.26% increase); 5443 deaths (2.27% mortality rate)

 

April 3

KY - 831 cases (6.54% increase); 37 deaths (4.45% mortality rate)

US - 277205 cases (15.85% increase); 6893 deaths (2.49% mortality rate)

 

April 4

KY - 917 cases (10.35% increase); 40 deaths (4.36% mortality rate)

US - TBD

 

DATA SOURCES:

United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

 

Kentucky Department of Public Health https://govstatus.egov.com/kycovid19

[Voice of Reason]

Shouldn't we see the numbers start to level off in Kentucky and Ohio in the next week? I know the health officials keep projecting a spiraling growth. But my thought is this. The shutdowns started around March 16 in both states. That was when we started controlling the spread. By March 22 or 23 we had a stay at home level shutdown. Next week we will be at two weeks from the stay at home shutdown. In theory, anyone who has the virus should know it. During the contagious stage, they were in shutdown so anyone they have been in contact with should be easily tracked and able to quarantine. That should cause the numbers to start leveling some, shouldn't it?

 

Then over the next two weeks after that, in theory everyone who gets the virus has basically been in quasi quarantine already because of the shutdown. That should limit the spread even more. If we could test those exposed before waiting for symptoms, we could get ahead of this. Even if we still can't test the exposed (ridiculous if we can't by then), the spread should be very limited because of the shutdown. I just don't see how this thing could still be growing in numbers 3 weeks or so from now. What am I missing?

[JDEaston]

Shouldn't we see the numbers start to level off in Kentucky and Ohio in the next week? I know the health officials keep projecting a spiraling growth. But my thought is this. The shutdowns started around March 16 in both states. That was when we started controlling the spread. By March 22 or 23 we had a stay at home level shutdown. Next week we will be at two weeks from the stay at home shutdown. In theory, anyone who has the virus should know it. During the contagious stage, they were in shutdown so anyone they have been in contact with should be easily tracked and able to quarantine. That should cause the numbers to start leveling some, shouldn't it?

 

Then over the next two weeks after that, in theory everyone who gets the virus has basically been in quasi quarantine already because of the shutdown. That should limit the spread even more. If we could test those exposed before waiting for symptoms, we could get ahead of this. Even if we still can't test the exposed (ridiculous if we can't by then), the spread should be very limited because of the shutdown. I just don't see how this thing could still be growing in numbers 3 weeks or so from now. What am I missing?

 

What shutdowns lol? I have to be out and about for work daily 5 days a week, sometimes 6 or 7 days a week. The shutdowns are meaningless, other than it has changed some people's habits. But 75% of us are not staying at home. I can determine that from vehicular traffic alone.

[TheDeuce]

Shouldn't we see the numbers start to level off in Kentucky and Ohio in the next week? I know the health officials keep projecting a spiraling growth. But my thought is this. The shutdowns started around March 16 in both states. That was when we started controlling the spread. By March 22 or 23 we had a stay at home level shutdown. Next week we will be at two weeks from the stay at home shutdown. In theory, anyone who has the virus should know it. During the contagious stage, they were in shutdown so anyone they have been in contact with should be easily tracked and able to quarantine. That should cause the numbers to start leveling some, shouldn't it?

 

Then over the next two weeks after that, in theory everyone who gets the virus has basically been in quasi quarantine already because of the shutdown. That should limit the spread even more. If we could test those exposed before waiting for symptoms, we could get ahead of this. Even if we still can't test the exposed (ridiculous if we can't by then), the spread should be very limited because of the shutdown. I just don't see how this thing could still be growing in numbers 3 weeks or so from now. What am I missing?

 

I think you are vastly underestimating the number of people that still are not doing what they are supposed to.

[Voice of Reason]

What shutdowns lol? I have to be out and about for work daily 5 days a week, sometimes 6 or 7 days a week. The shutdowns are meaningless, other than it has changed some people's habits. But 75% of us are not staying at home. I can determine that from vehicular traffic alone.

 

I think you are vastly underestimating the number of people that still are not doing what they are supposed to.

 

Then why are we doing the shutdown? No school. No restaurant dining. No bars. No concerts. No sporting events of any kind. No social get togethers. No theater. No public events of any kind. We aren't locked in our homes with one person allowed to go out once a week for groceries, but come one. Are you saying all of that and all the other ones I didn't list have no impact? The numbers just keep going up like we aren't doing any of that?

[JDEaston]

Then why are we doing the shutdown? No school. No restaurant dining. No bars. No concerts. No sporting events of any kind. No social get togethers. No theater. No public events of any kind. We aren't locked in our homes with one person allowed to go out once a week for groceries, but come one. Are you saying all of that and all the other ones I didn't list have no impact? The numbers just keep going up like we aren't doing any of that?

 

Of course it has an impact. But not as great of one as it would have if people didn't not follow the rules and have Coronavirus parties and such.

 

My point is that certain things were shut down and people were asked to stay at home unless it was to go get something essential. But that's like an honor system and at this point in time us humans aren't that honorable. Most just do what they want and find alternatives to going to the movies and such.

Families that usually have a single person or two go on shopping trips to the grocery store are now bringing the whole family along, because it's something to do and they're all "bored." That's not following along with staying at home unless you need to go out for essential things though.

 

Then there are the cars full of high school kids I keep seeing daily. Where are they going, what are they doing, getting groceries I suppose? I've had kids that I know and respect, they're good kids in general, but they're telling me that they carry groceries in their car just to have an excuse to being out cruising around.

 

My point is nothing is shut down and the places that are have a loophole to use if they wish. Add a meat cooler to your store and you're essential.

[Voice of Reason]

Of course it has an impact. But not as great of one as it would have if people didn't not follow the rules and have Coronavirus parties and such.

 

My point is that certain things were shut down and people were asked to stay at home unless it was to go get something essential. But that's like an honor system and at this point in time us humans aren't that honorable. Most just do what they want and find alternatives to going to the movies and such.

Families that usually have a single person or two go on shopping trips to the grocery store are now bringing the whole family along, because it's something to do and they're all "bored." That's not following along with staying at home unless you need to go out for essential things though.

 

Then there are the cars full of high school kids I keep seeing daily. Where are they going, what are they doing, getting groceries I suppose? I've had kids that I know and respect, they're good kids in general, but they're telling me that they carry groceries in their car just to have an excuse to being out cruising around.

 

I think more than enough compliance is happening to have an impact on the numbers here in Ohio and Kentucky. No we aren't dropping to zero cases. But that has never been the goal. The goal of all this is to get the cases to a level that our health care system can manage it.

[JDEaston]

I think more than enough compliance is happening to have an impact on the numbers here in Ohio and Kentucky. No we aren't dropping to zero cases. But that has never been the goal. The goal of all this is to get the cases to a level that our health care system can manage it.

 

Ok.

[Irish Cat]

I think more than enough compliance is happening to have an impact on the numbers here in Ohio and Kentucky. No we aren't dropping to zero cases. But that has never been the goal. The goal of all this is to get the cases to a level that our health care system can manage it.

 

Yep flattening the curve isn't supposed to reduce the amount of infections, but it will spread out the period of time in which people get infected and reduce the load on the health care system which hopefully will reduce the amount of deaths.

[TheDeuce]

Then why are we doing the shutdown? No school. No restaurant dining. No bars. No concerts. No sporting events of any kind. No social get togethers. No theater. No public events of any kind. We aren't locked in our homes with one person allowed to go out once a week for groceries, but come one. Are you saying all of that and all the other ones I didn't list have no impact? The numbers just keep going up like we aren't doing any of that?

 

People are still crowding at parks. People are still crowding at church. People are still crowding at the stores that are open. We’ve done a lot of things that will have an affect on the numbers, eventually. You can’t give people the option to do the right thing because they won’t.

[mcpapa]

People are still crowding at parks. People are still crowding at church. People are still crowding at the stores that are open. We’ve done a lot of things that will have an affect on the numbers, eventually. You can’t give people the option to do the right thing because they won’t.

Sad but true.

[tcjkbt]

I think many more people are honoring the shutdown than not.......at least that has been my informal observation. One question: If you are honoring the shutdown, how do you know what others are doing? Shouldn't you be inside?