June 25, 201511 yr It is my understanding that the flag that most consider to be the "confederate flag" was never the flag of the CSA. It was the battle flag of the Northern Army of Virginia. If that is true how did that flag become so popular? And why is everyone so hell bent on keeping it flying? What am I missing that made that specific flag so popular?
June 25, 201511 yr And their heritage. I don't disagree necessarily with you or Deuce, but we don't get to choose our heritage, correct ? Since we don't get to choose our heritage, why would we infer that as a personal negative on the individual ? Guys are going to have to help me with that one....baby with the bathwater
June 25, 201511 yr I don't disagree necessarily with you or Deuce, but we don't get to choose our heritage, correct ? Since we don't get to choose our heritage, why would we infer that as a personal negative on the individual ? Guys are going to have to help me with that one....baby with the bathwater No, we don't get to choose our heritage. But we do have the choice of following ideas and beliefs of our heritage.
June 25, 201511 yr It is my understanding that the flag that most consider to be the "confederate flag" was never the flag of the CSA. It was the battle flag of the Northern Army of Virginia. If that is true how did that flag become so popular? And why is everyone so hell bent on keeping it flying? What am I missing that made that specific flag so popular? Without looking it up, the Battle Flag was designed by PGT Beauragard, a prominent CSA General. It was used throughout the Southern Army. The Army of Northern Virginia had their own Army Group Flag, but it wasn't this one. The official CSA flag was the Stars and Bars. Later another was adopted with the battle flag in the left corner on a white field. Then even later a Red bar added to the right 1/5 of the flag.
June 25, 201511 yr Without looking it up, the Battle Flag was designed by PGT Beauragard, a prominent CSA General. It was used throughout the Southern Army. The Army of Northern Virginia had their own Army Group Flag, but it wasn't this one. The official CSA flag was the Stars and Bars. Later another was adopted with the battle flag in the left corner on a white field. Then even later a Red bar added to the right 1/5 of the flag.My entire knowledge of the history of the flag comes from Wiki so take it for what it is. That said according to wiki, the Stars and Bars is not the flag in question today. The Stars and Bars flag looked similar to today's American Flag except it had 3 large strips Red and White strips and 7 stars in a circle in the blue part. The flag we today call the Confederate Flag was designed by William Miles at the behest of Beauragard. Again, this is a quick review from Wiki so take it for what it's worth.
June 25, 201511 yr No, we don't get to choose our heritage. But we do have the choice of following ideas and beliefs of our heritage.
June 25, 201511 yr Unintended consequence is that I would bet at least for a while you will see more Confederate Flags than ever. We were in Gatlinburg a couple of months ago and saw them everywhere on cars, shirts and hats. I think they will be out in force at least short term as some people are going to revolt against all of the up roar.
June 25, 201511 yr Unintended consequence is that I would bet at least for a while you will see more Confederate Flags than ever. We were in Gatlinburg a couple of months ago and saw them everywhere on cars, shirts and hats. I think they will be out in force at least short term as people are going to revolt against all of the up roar. Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
June 25, 201511 yr Unintended consequence is that I would bet at least for a while you will see more Confederate Flags than ever. We were in Gatlinburg a couple of months ago and saw them everywhere on cars, shirts and hats. I think they will be out in force at least short term as some people are going to revolt against all of the up roar. If I had access to a distributor I would sell them on a website right now. Straight up. I'd be able to quit my job and retire.
June 25, 201511 yr It is my understanding that the flag that most consider to be the "confederate flag" was never the flag of the CSA. It was the battle flag of the Northern Army of Virginia. If that is true how did that flag become so popular? And why is everyone so hell bent on keeping it flying? What am I missing that made that specific flag so popular? The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy. Ironically, General Robert E. Lee, commander of the Army of Northen Virginia, freed his slaves in 1862, which he never purchased - they were inherited from his father in-law in 1862. Lee, who opposed the war was offered a commission in the Union army but declined citing his obligation to his home state of VA. U.S. Grant also had at least 1l slave and used many more owned by his wife's father. Edited June 25, 201511 yr by Toothpick
June 26, 201511 yr The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy. Ironically, General Robert E. Lee, commander of the Army of Northen Virginia, freed his slaves in 1862, which he never purchased - they were inherited from his father in-law in 1862. Lee, who opposed the war was offered a commission in the Union army but declined citing his obligation to his home state of VA. U.S. Grant also had at least 1l slave and used many more owned by his wife's father. 1st flag of the Confederate States of America from March 4, 1861 until November 28, 1861 2nd flag of the Confederate States of America from November 28, 1861 until May 1, 1863 3rd flag of the Confederate States of America from May 1, 1863 til March 4, 1865 4th flag of the Confederate States of America from March 4, 1865 on.
June 26, 201511 yr Naw. That was just some good ole boys never meanin' no harm. ^ Exactly Probably 1percent out of a 100 see it as anything else
June 26, 201511 yr It comes down to one person's "right to not be offended" is stronger than another's right to Freedom of Speech. I don't really care if a flag flies over SC's capitol. It doesn't offend me. Would I personally fly it at my home? Hell no. History is subjective. People will see what they want to see. Some see the flag as a symbol of hatred, slavery, and racist evil. Others will see it as a symbol of their family roots and a tradition. Not many people are in the middle, so it creates a great opportunity for the for-profit media outlets to once again divide the country as they collect a check for their work.
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