Jim Schue Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 The suspect was using deadly force as well. Also the first thing you should do is NOT underestimate the guy that's coming at you with a knife, the officer doesn't know what kind of fighting/training the guy he's going up against. Do you have a problem with police authority? I have a problem with all authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleluck55 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Did you not see me ask about a billy club? Surely that could be used to dislodge the knife? Not only are police officers trained to use deadly force if they are threatened, they are taught to make sure the suspect is immobile. I haven't seen the report but I would guess there was more than one shot also. And yes, if the suspect had a billy club and came at an officer, they would shoot him also if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Did you not see me ask about a billy club? Surely that could be used to dislodge the knife? That simply would be a horrible decision. Why get that close to a person with a knife? Too many officers murdered as it is. The job is dangerous enough, but what you are suggesting is absolutely horrible tactics. A taser would be an option but only in the situation I already described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Not only are police officers trained to use deadly force if they are threatened, they are taught to make sure the suspect is immobile. I haven't seen the report but I would guess there was more than one shot also. And yes, if the suspect had a billy club and came at an officer, they would shoot him also if need be. :thumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bballfamily Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I too thought one would be dead at such a level, but someone close to me had the same level when he died of other means. A drunk builds up his tolerance level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanEmpire Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think this situation could of been avoided with the K-9. How about this............."hands in the air, or you're dog food." Those dogs are scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bballfamily Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 The blame is clearly on the man with the knife. He is responsible for his own death. The police responded with the proper force. They are to protect the public and theirselves. Some want to place the blame on others, rather than blaming the person responsilbe. That is a major problem in the country today, not accepting responsibilty for the consequences of one's actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I think this situation could of been avoided with the K-9. How about this............."hands in the air, or you're dog food." Those dogs are scary. K-9's can be stabbed too. And they may not have had one available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanEmpire Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 K-9's can be stabbed too. And they may not have had one available. Your statement fits your argument. Of course a dog can be stabbed, but I would love to see the K-9 released on this guy in his state of intoxication. This guy would have have freaked and been subdued with some nice dog bites, but maybe not dead. Available?? Did they ask if one was available? These animals are very intimidating and scary. I am willing to lay a very large wager that this would have been successful in saving a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsfan41 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Your statement fits your argument. Of course a dog can be stabbed, but I would love to see the K-9 released on this guy in his state of intoxication. This guy would have have freaked and been subdued with some nice dog bites, but maybe not dead. Available?? Did they ask if one was available? These animals are very intimidating and scary. I am willing to lay a very large wager that this would have been successful in saving a life. I'm pretty sure the police officers didn't know his blood alcohol level from 10 feet away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Your statement fits your argument. Of course a dog can be stabbed, but I would love to see the K-9 released on this guy in his state of intoxication. This guy would have have freaked and been subdued with some nice dog bites, but maybe not dead. Available?? Did they ask if one was available? These animals are very intimidating and scary. I am willing to lay a very large wager that this would have been successful in saving a life. I don't know if they asked or not, but if the guy lunges at them with a knife are they supposed to run until a k-9 shows up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanEmpire Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I don't know if they asked or not, but if the guy lunges at them with a knife are they supposed to run until a k-9 shows up? Still missing my point. Show up with the dog when you have a situation. They work. I watched a program on TLC and those dogs are amazing and people are afraid of them, even when they're intoxicated. No need to argue, your mind is made up. G'nite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanEmpire Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 I'm pretty sure the police officers didn't know his blood alcohol level from 10 feet away. Irrelevant. Bring the dog on the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Irrelevant. Bring the dog on the call. You keep saying things like dogs are constantly available. This is a pretty important call, and if a dog isn't available they probably didn't have time to sit around and wait while this guy possibly robbed, or hurt someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfback20 Posted April 30, 2011 Share Posted April 30, 2011 Still missing my point. Show up with the dog when you have a situation. They work. I watched a program on TLC and those dogs are amazing and people are afraid of them, even when they're intoxicated. No need to argue, your mind is made up. G'nite. So because you watch a TV show it works every time, right? These guys are professionals, I think they know when they can/should call out a k-9. Like I said, we don't even know if one was available. And most likely, they didn't have time to wait on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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