Ahh more of that cake town humility it's music to my ears, so free from arrogance or a sense of entitlement...

 

Seriously folks, you guys have a great program and a great school. Just start acknowledging that transfers play a large part in the athletic successes. I really think that is all anyone is looking for. You never have and never will so why I'm wasting my breath I never know. :isurrender:

 

9 post since wasting your breath and surrendering. Got to give it to you. You are persistent.

To get back to the topic in a little humorous light, I think that the best possible scenario is for HHS to go 27-1 this year. 15 regular season wins, 12 "overturned losses" plus the loss to SK in the 7 on 7 scrimmage.

I am one poster that agrees with 2HC in some aspects. I also agree with LN about the transfers not playing a big role in Highlands 19 state championships. However, the transfers has hurt their previous schools more than helped Highlands. A kid like Nevels would have helped out SK tremendously and maybe they start their run well before the Simpson era. That goes for many others....but Beechwood and CovCath are guilty also. And by guilty, i am not implying they are at fault, but they are benefactors of these transfers as well. And once again LN is correct, Highlands has supreme coaches vs. most of NKY. It is the responsibility of the schools to coach and improve their team from within but this becomes more difficult when players of extraordinary talents vacate their "home town" to find "greener" pastures.

 

I agree with the bolded portion of your statement, and I think it's worth looking at why it's true.

 

A few years ago, Josh Conner was a truly great out-of-district football player for HHS (some considered him one of the top players in the state), and when he went down with a broken leg in the preseason scrimmage of his senior year, many were worried about the impact on Highland’s season. As it turned out, the machine rolled on to a state championship. Why did the loss of Josh for the majority of the season not have the type of impact that so many people worried it would? Because local kids, who had been there all along, who had been working their butts off for the past 4 years, were ready to step up and take over. The impact, while unfortunate, was relatively small considering the production HHS had received from Josh the previous season.

 

Now I know there’s no way I can actually compare the net gain by Highlands with the net loss felt by Newport when Josh decided to attend school out of district, but I think we can all agree that Newport’s loss was greater than Highlands gain (not that it wasn’t a significant and appreciated gain for Highlands). And why is that? I submit it’s because his old school did not have the same type of local kids ready to step in as did Highlands. And why is that? Well, unless you subscribe to the Ft. Thomas-superior-gene-pool-theory, I know of no better reason than the kids truly do work harder (and by harder I’m including possibly working smarter).

 

While I appreciate the contributions of the jr. league & community, I’ve yet to hear an explanation in this thread, or any other thread on this board, that leads me to question this belief.

What makes it so wrong for a kid to come and want to play at a school that improves his chances at playing at the next level? You have to do whats best for you and this is what Michael Mitchell did. He followed the rules and moved so he could play football for Highlands. What is the big deal honestly? Say he stays at CovCath and they dont win a state championship so he doesn't go to Ohio or any D 1 School which follows to him not being drafted. To me it looks like the man made one hell of a decision.

 

??? That's a good question, however, if this had happened at Trinity, we would have had separate Public and Private Classifications. Just from the bolded part, if the KHSAA allowed kids to freely do that, then a Pandora's Box opens up.

I agree with the bolded portion of your statement, and I think it's worth looking at why it's true.

 

A few years ago, Josh Conner was a truly great out-of-district football player for HHS (some considered him one of the top players in the state), and when he went down with a broken leg in the preseason scrimmage of his senior year, many were worried about the impact on Highland’s season. As it turned out, the machine rolled on to a state championship. Why did the loss of Josh for the majority of the season not have the type of impact that so many people worried it would? Because local kids, who had been there all along, who had been working their butts off for the past 4 years, were ready to step up and take over. The impact, while unfortunate, was relatively small considering the production HHS had received from Josh the previous season.

 

Now I know there’s no way I can actually compare the net gain by Highlands with the net loss felt by Newport when Josh decided to attend school out of district, but I think we can all agree that Newport’s loss was greater than Highlands gain (not that it wasn’t a significant and appreciated gain for Highlands). And why is that? I submit it’s because his old school did not have the same type of local kids ready to step in as did Highlands. And why is that? Well, unless you subscribe to the Ft. Thomas-superior-gene-pool-theory, I know of no better reason than the kids truly do work harder (and by harder I’m including possibly working smarter).

 

While I appreciate the contributions of the jr. league & community, I’ve yet to hear an explanation in this thread, or any other thread on this board, that leads me to question this belief.

 

Here's where I have a problem. What do we consider an "out of district" player? Josh Conner never played a down for Newport, and was a resident of Ft. Thomas when he took his first handoff as a frosh Bluebird. So again, his family decided to move to Ft. Thomas and have their children attend HHS and play sports. A conscience decision was made to do this. Why do we continually bring this up. Are you telling that other schools get kids come in as freshman that weren't in the districts middle and grade schools?

So assuming CCHS does the same drills, same lifts and puts in the same amount of time as HHS they should see similar results? If not then I guess there is something in the water in Ft. Thomas or the kids there are just naturally better athletes than kids from Cold Spring, Wilder, Highland Heights and Alexandria. I didn't say it was the major factor, but a big one, but if you only get one a year and you can replace a weakest link somewhere that one makes you that much better. I'm done with this because there are too many HHS fans on this forum to argue about this with.

 

 

I think you're onto something here....but CCHS doesn't do the same drills, lifts and time....we have friends who play there and the comparison isn't even remotely close......

 

People send their kids to HHS for a lot of reasons, but many of those reasons don't get discussed on the boards. We chose HHS because of the FTJFL program. I think people are beginning to find that the Red Devil program is not a good design for development of youth athletics...and that's not to say that good football players don't come out of that program. The Red Devil program wasn't appealing for a lot of reasons, but mostly because the people involved weren't welcoming. My son was not eligible to play in the CCYFL (which I think is on track to be a good program) so we really had no other choice but to go to FTJFL.

 

Inclusion is a funny thing, you can stand on the outside and point fingers, but remember, you have to look inside to get an honest view. Until the CCYFL is open and inclusive of ALL YOUTH IN THE DISTRICT, you will continue to see kids exit for (HHS, NCC, etc...) The HHS Football Family has been nothing but open and accepting of us, no one has turned up their nose....the only programs that have done that are the youth feeder programs for CCHS, and that's really unfortunate. Maybe it's time to take a total picture, top down look at how the program works before blind judgements are cast about why a student athlete attends HHS. In this case, it starts at home....

That is an interesting diagnosis of the Red Devil and CCYFL system, i have yet to here of this. More power to you to do whats best for your boys.

I think you're onto something here....but CCHS doesn't do the same drills, lifts and time....we have friends who play there and the comparison isn't even remotely close......

 

People send their kids to HHS for a lot of reasons, but many of those reasons don't get discussed on the boards. We chose HHS because of the FTJFL program. I think people are beginning to find that the Red Devil program is not a good design for development of youth athletics...and that's not to say that good football players don't come out of that program. The Red Devil program wasn't appealing for a lot of reasons, but mostly because the people involved weren't welcoming. My son was not eligible to play in the CCYFL (which I think is on track to be a good program) so we really had no other choice but to go to FTJFL.

 

Inclusion is a funny thing, you can stand on the outside and point fingers, but remember, you have to look inside to get an honest view. Until the CCYFL is open and inclusive of ALL YOUTH IN THE DISTRICT, you will continue to see kids exit for (HHS, NCC, etc...) The HHS Football Family has been nothing but open and accepting of us, no one has turned up their nose....the only programs that have done that are the youth feeder programs for CCHS, and that's really unfortunate. Maybe it's time to take a total picture, top down look at how the program works before blind judgements are cast about why a student athlete attends HHS. In this case, it starts at home....

 

Nice post! The truth is that CCYFL not including certain kids in the district is not smart. I am involved in the FTJFL and I happen to coach a team that has a lot of out of town kids. Obviously I hope that the families will opt for HHS, but at the end of the day it is about the kids. I just want to give them the skills to play on Friday nights. The Red Devlis have some very good athletes, but some kids are late bloomers and its hard to develop skill sets on the sidelines. Kids want to play and have passion for the game. I think our system works and if kids are coming from Fort Mitchell that certainly shows that our system works. The other fact that I would like to make is don't for a second think that we do not have kids that could or would not start for the Red Devils.

No, IMO the Bluebirds need to lose one or two in order to get fired up for the latter half of the season that will mostly be spent away from home. If they're not mentally prepared by then, it could be a long drive home from Golden Eagle territory....

No' date=' IMO the[b'] Bluebirds need to lose one or two in order to get fired up[/b] for the latter half of the season that will mostly be spent away from home. If they're not mentally prepared by then, it could be a long drive home from Golden Eagle territory....

 

I can only guess that you know none of the current players, and are only speculating. It is totally absurd, IMO, to say they need to lose one or two in order to get fired up. This senior class has had three years of mental preparation for the post season, and they know what it takes.

I can only guess that you know none of the current players, and are only speculating. It is totally absurd, IMO, to say they need to lose one or two in order to get fired up. This senior class has had three years of mental preparation for the post season, and they know what it takes.

The topic of what role losing plays in shaping and motivating high school athletes is an interesting one. While De La Salle's incredible win streak was going on, the school's principal (who was also a priest) once made a comment to the local media that he thought it would be better for the De La Salle players if they lost, since there are lessons in losing, and he felt his school's players were missing out on such lessons, given that several classes of players went their entire high school careers never losing.

 

For a program like Highlands, which has only lost one game in the past three seasons and has not lost a game against an in-state team since 2006, I do wonder how the players would cope if they lost a game against a KY team this season? Would they become disheartened? Would they focus and work even harder? Do the players feel any kind of burden having to protect the state's longest current win streak?

 

Call me short-sighted, but I hope I don't get to find out this year!!!!

No' date=' IMO the Bluebirds need to lose one or two in order to get fired up for the latter half of the season that will mostly be spent away from home. If they're not mentally prepared by then, it could be a long drive home from Golden Eagle territory....[/quote']

 

Tell me your kidding . :lol:

 

Fired up ? Have you ever been to a Highlands game ? :laugh:

Ok , I'll play , which two do you think they should lose ?

I know some of the bird fans think the streak will go on forever but like Jbwill states there are lessons learned in losing. Even if the Birds dropped the regular season finale the ultimate goal is 4 peating. I dont think whackem is off with his comments, he makes a valid point. Just because some posters dont want to believe they will ever lose again, it shouldnt dismiss or twist Whackems post. As far as him attending games, he goes to all the home games aand sits through all the blowouts. Imo id like to be able to watch more competetive games and not have to feel like a game is over at the half.

So there are downsides to being #3 in the nation??