1 hour ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

From BBN or Calipari? lol

LOL, probably both!!

2 hours ago, futurecoach said:

Whatever man. ????

Hard to dispute data.

1 hour ago, mcpapa said:

As I’ve said before.   The greatest risk of another underachieving season can be summed up in one word.   
 

Apathy. 

Agreed.  But I also wonder how the majority will define "underachieving."  Cal had significantly more talent this year than he's had in a while and has nothing to show for it.  It's hard to see any scenario where next year's team can eclipse this year's from a talent standpoint.

Honestly, I'm kind of surprised Cal wanted to coach next year.  And I have a hard time seeing what Barnhart is seeing.  It's hard to imagine 2024-25 curing all ills.

3 hours ago, mcpapa said:

I’m reminded of both the title and the final line of a classic song by The Who.  Some of you will know before I finish typing this post. 
 

(We) Won’t Get Fooled Again

”Meet the new boss.  Same as the old boss.”

Honestly, every lyric from that song works on this situation!

3 hours ago, 16thBBall Fan said:

Yeah, she was, doesn’t matter HOW or WHY she won the SEC tournament, what really matters is she DID IT!!  Yes, she had a great player, Cal had the National Player of the year and didn’t win a SEC tournament, both won 1 NCAA tournament game, Elzy was 8-3 in SEC tournament in those 4 years, Cal, 1-4, everything else was fairly even so in my opinion the SEC tournament success compared to Cal’s makes her more successful during that time span.

This is an all-time take that nearly melted my screen.

2 hours ago, 16thBBall Fan said:

Hard to dispute data.

 

4 hours ago, 16thBBall Fan said:

Yeah, she was, doesn’t matter HOW or WHY she won the SEC tournament, what really matters is she DID IT!!  Yes, she had a great player, Cal had the National Player of the year and didn’t win a SEC tournament, both won 1 NCAA tournament game, Elzy was 8-3 in SEC tournament in those 4 years, Cal, 1-4, everything else was fairly even so in my opinion the SEC tournament success compared to Cal’s makes her more successful during that time span.

Thank you I was hoping you would say that it is hard to dispute data. So you want to talk about data? Yet you then say everything else was fairly even? ??

As mentioned in her 4 years her overall record was 61 and 60, so one game above .500. Her conference record was 23 and 40. So 17 games below 500. Her finishes in the conference was 5th, 7th, 12th and 13th. So a few of those tournament wins came while having to play right away. Then two tournament appearances, with the one only coming because of the one great 4 day stretch she had to win it. Which definitely credit to her for that. 
 

Calipari during the last 4 years overall record was 80 and 46. So 34 games above 500, not just one game like her. Calipari conference record during the last 4 years was 47 and 24. So 23 games above 500, not 17 games below 500 like her in conference. His finished in the season  was 8, 2, 3, and 2. So much better regular season finishes in conference too. Then same with overall rankings.  Plus 3 tournament appearances, not just 2. But yeah the rest you chose to leave out was about even ??. 
 

If Calipari had the exact same record as she has had the last 4 years, he definitely would be fired right now and wouldn’t be back. His last 4 years was not good, but doesn’t mean hers was better. You wonder why you all always get so many comments back, it’s because some of you all are so over the top with your Cal takes, that can’t even have normal discussions. Because one thing we all would agree on, is the last 4 years hasn’t been good enough and it must change. 

2 hours ago, Randy Parker said:

Agreed.  But I also wonder how the majority will define "underachieving."  Cal had significantly more talent this year than he's had in a while and has nothing to show for it.  It's hard to see any scenario where next year's team can eclipse this year's from a talent standpoint.

Honestly, I'm kind of surprised Cal wanted to coach next year.  And I have a hard time seeing what Barnhart is seeing.  It's hard to imagine 2024-25 curing all ills.

The scenario where next year’s talent eclipses this year’s is this.  Cal convinces 2 or 3 guys to stay rather than pushing them into the Association. 

25 minutes ago, futurecoach said:

 

Thank you I was hoping you would say that it is hard to dispute data. So you want to talk about data? Yet you then say everything else was fairly even? ??

As mentioned in her 4 years her overall record was 61 and 60, so one game above .500. Her conference record was 23 and 40. So 17 games below 500. Her finishes in the conference was 5th, 7th, 12th and 13th. So a few of those tournament wins came while having to play right away. Then two tournament appearances, with the one only coming because of the one great 4 day stretch she had to win it. Which definitely credit to her for that. 
 

Calipari during the last 4 years overall record was 80 and 46. So 34 games above 500, not just one game like her. Calipari conference record during the last 4 years was 47 and 24. So 23 games above 500, not 17 games below 500 like her in conference. His finished in the season  was 8, 2, 3, and 2. So much better regular season finishes in conference too. Then same with overall rankings.  Plus 3 tournament appearances, not just 2. But yeah the rest you chose to leave out was about even ??. 
 

If Calipari had the exact same record as she has had the last 4 years, he definitely would be fired right now and wouldn’t be back. His last 4 years was not good, but doesn’t mean hers was better. You wonder why you all always get so many comments back, it’s because some of you all are so over the top with your Cal takes, that can’t even have normal discussions. Because one thing we all would agree on, is the last 4 years hasn’t been good enough and it must change. 

Yeah, I’m basically talking about the postseason she had more success.  I don’t think I’ve ever been over the top about Cal, I just see him for what he is which a WHOLE BUNCH of people are doing that now, especially the national media!!

and I love comments back, that’s what makes this site so much fun

58 minutes ago, bugatti said:

This is an all-time take that nearly melted my screen.

LOL, love this!!

From what I read earlier is that the Craft family said no they weren’t paying Calipari north of $30 Mil. So we’re stuck with him for god knows how long 

27 minutes ago, All State Baseball said:

From what I read earlier is that the Craft family said no they weren’t paying Calipari north of $30 Mil. So we’re stuck with him for god knows how long 

Well it won't be north of $30 million next year. Think I saw it drops to $27 million.

19 minutes ago, MJAlltheWay24 said:

Well it won't be north of $30 million next year. Think I saw it drops to $27 million.

Maybe BGP nation can pass the hat. 

Final 4 next year.

4 hours ago, I gotta go to work said:

Final 4 next year.

People can either cheer for it and hope for the best. Or crap on everything along the way to wherever 2024-2025 leads.