2 Humped Camel Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Unarmed black man killed by white Phoenix officer PHOENIX — The facts surrounding Rumain Brisbon's death — the ones that could be agreed upon as of Wednesday evening — follow a narrative familiar to a nation still reeling from the racially charged police incidents in Ferguson, Mo., New York City and elsewhere. In Phoenix on Tuesday evening, a white police officer who was feeling threatened used lethal force on an unarmed black man. The incident left the officer unharmed and Brisbon, 34, dead with two bullet wounds in his torso at a north Phoenix apartment complex. Do the rules of engagement need to be changed, is feeling threatened enough for a government employee to play judge, jury and executioner without ever even seeing a weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sounds like there are again two completely different stories here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsLady Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Does failing to comply with the orders of law enforcement merit a lethal response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Problem 1 - Running from police. Problem 2 - When is it acceptable to use deadly force. Problem 3 - You can't read the mind of someone that is not obeying orders. Just a bunch of horrible circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Failing to comply with officers is a bad idea, no other way to slice it. That doesn't, however, automatically give officers the right to kill. Do police not carry tazers anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Failing to comply with officers is a bad idea, no other way to slice it. That doesn't, however, automatically give officers the right to kill. Do police not carry tazers anymore? Yep. Yep. And yep??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Yep. Yep. And yep??? I was just wondering about the tazers... Seems like that could have been a less lethal option in some of these cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickymitts Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I was just wondering about the tazers... Seems like that could have been a less lethal option in some of these cases. I was agreeing with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Well hell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePride92 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I was just wondering about the tazers... Seems like that could have been a less lethal option in some of these cases. I'd forgotten about tasers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'd forgotten about tasers. Apparently you aren't the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It is hard to tell an officer to use a non-lethal solution when it is unknown what the victim is reaching for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeuce Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 It is hard to tell an officer to use a non-lethal solution when it is unknown what the victim is reaching for. So shoot them and then hope they have a weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 So shoot them and then hope they have a weapon? Versus hope the taser stops him from potentially killing you? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Humped Camel Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 It is hard to tell an officer to use a non-lethal solution when it is unknown what the victim is reaching for. I've never been in the situation but I would think it would be possible to actually require police to see a gun, knife, etc before shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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