50inarow Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 School board again tells KHSAA to work out its own spat The sensitive sports debate began anew in October when public schools, which make up the vast majority of KHSAA's membership, voted to force private schools into their own tournaments. They were concerned about recent domination of some larger private schools that draw from a wider area and use scholarships to lure top athletes , much like colleges do. What is this guy talking about? You would think the press would be required to know what they are talking about before they are allowed to report on a topic. This guy clearly has no idea. That or he is trying to slant the public's opinion on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Play No Work Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 He is probably an AP writer that has some Sports coverage in his history but most likely was assigned to various other areas of news. Although it would be best to not write incorrect things or to use words like "perception" etc. he probably banged this story out and went on to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinity alum Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Stories like this are part of the problem. I wish people would bother to find the facts before they start on this stuff. When people state what they are concerned about with regard to private schools, most of it just isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlbdonn Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 The larger Private schools are in Louisville and. I hope that people from Louisville associated with X and Trinity and the girls schools jump all over this and set this guy straight about athletic scholarships . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml007 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 The larger Private schools are in Louisville and. I hope that people from Louisville associated with X and Trinity and the girls schools jump all over this and set this guy straight about athletic scholarships . Isn't a kid going to a school to participate in athletics and given financial aid an athletic scholarship. Why was he wrong? Is that not an issue. My college scholarship was done this way. I think a Lexington Private School that won a football championship this year got in trouble for this from the KHSAA. I dont think this guy is completely off-base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Play No Work Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Isn't a kid going to a school to participate in athletics and given financial aid an athletic scholarship. Why was he wrong? Is that not an issue. My college scholarship was done this way. I think a Lexington Private School that won a football championship this year got in trouble for this from the KHSAA. I dont think this guy is completely off-base. College scholarships given for athletic ability are different than financial aid given to high school students based on need to pay tuition who may or may not participate in athletics. There are specific rules and guidelines that private schools must follow to award financial aid. Anything not in accordance with those rules (example awarding financial aid based on athletic ability) is a violation of KHSAA rules and is should/will be punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml007 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 College scholarships given for athletic ability are different than financial aid given to high school students based on need to pay tuition who may or may not participate in athletics. There are specific rules and guidelines that private schools must follow to award financial aid. Anything not in accordance with those rules (example awarding financial aid based on athletic ability) is a violation of KHSAA rules and is should/will be punished. I would hope that all financial aid given to athletes would be given to a non-athlete as well. That would be a difficult seperation. Even if an athlete gets need based money. If the athlete was brought to the school to participate in athletics. I would consider that an athletic scholarship, even if it is need based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50inarow Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 Isn't a kid going to a school to participate in athletics and given financial aid an athletic scholarship. Why was he wrong? Is that not an issue. My college scholarship was done this way. I think a Lexington Private School that won a football championship this year got in trouble for this from the KHSAA. I dont think this guy is completely off-base. You are completely off-base. It has been explained sooooooooo many times on BGP that you can easily find all the facts if you do a little digging. Happy reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml007 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 You are completely off-base. It has been explained sooooooooo many times on BGP that you can easily find all the facts if you do a little digging. Happy reading. Exactly which part am I off base about. Most of the info on here is presented by people with biased opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Play No Work Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 I would hope that all financial aid given to athletes would be given to a non-athlete as well. That would be a difficult seperation. Even if an athlete gets need based money. If the athlete was brought to the school to participate in athletics. I would consider that an athletic scholarship, even if it is need based. Here I'll sum it up for you to save you the reading. Financial aid is given on a need basis. Parents fill out a form with income information. The financial information only form goes to a third party clearinghouse out of state that decides if that student is to receive aid. The clearinghouse does not know if the student is male or female or is a basketball player or a tuba player and doesn't care about anything other than finacial information. That clearinghouse lets the school then know if that family's student qualifies. The max amount awarded is 50% or less of tuition cost and not everyone gets aid and most do not get 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Exactly which part am I off base about. Most of the info on here is presented by people with biased opinions. Every bit of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml007 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Here I'll sum it up for you to save you the reading. Financial aid is given on a need basis. Parents fill out a form with income information. The financial information only form goes to a third party clearinghouse out of state that decides if that student is to receive aid. The clearinghouse does not know if the student is male or female or is a basketball player or a tuba player and doesn't care about anything other than finacial information. That clearinghouse lets the school then know if that family's student qualifies. The max amount awarded is 50% or less of tuition cost and not everyone gets aid and most do not get 50%. Thanks. That make sense. What about work study money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml007 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Every bit of it... Explain the Lexington school situation for me then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Explain the Lexington school situation for me then. They had an athlete that needed more aid than he recieved to stay in school. They helped him out. It was a violation and they had to pay the price... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sml007 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 You are completely off-base. It has been explained sooooooooo many times on BGP that you can easily find all the facts if you do a little digging. Happy reading. Here is my off-base info per the Courier Journal: DeVries placed the school's athletic program on two years of probation, fined it more than $30,000, forced it to forfeit some games and limited its number of regular-season home games in football and baseball next school year. The ruling does not affect any postseason title won by the school. Lexington Catholic, which has won state championships in six sports since 1999, has been a focal point of the ongoing controversy regarding athletic equity between Kentucky's public and private schools. In the letter, the KHSAA cited at least nine instances of LexCath awarding financial aid to students in violation of Bylaw 10, Section 2©, which forbids providing financial aid scholarships or other material rewards to athletes for which other students are not eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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