Nathaniel Bryan

I will re-phrase: What would it take to cause a Western Kentucky voter (and there plenty of them) to vote for a small-school kid with no major college offers nor a lot of hype for Mr. Football? This isn't about most deserving or best stats (Nick Bohn set the national record for a big school and a strength of schedule that dwarfs ones played this year and was a mere afterthought). It's about who the voters are and where they come from. Given that, how would you sway these voters who you desperately need on your side?

As I have said before, Mr. Football voting is done by the statewide Associated Press members and not by coaches or a panel. Northern Kentucky has 2 total votes that I know of -- and there's zero guarantee NKY voters promote/nominate Hergott over Jacob. Mayer was a different beast last year. Two-way star. Bigger school. D1 offers galore. If I had to guess some of the votes: *Elizabethtown (Wright then Games) *Somerset (Sharon first, Sloan a second-place vote; maybe Tristan Cox) *Frankfort (Broyles) *KPG (Long) *Lexington (Burton or Crowdus) *Danville (Gillis) *Ashland (Pittman, Preston, Cline) *Louisville (McElroy, Jack Dingle, Eli Blakey, Charlie Ely) *Bowling Green (Jordan Dingle or Dunn) *Hopkinsville (Reece Jesse) *Owensboro (Parker Bates or Treyvon Tinsley; Wimsatt is 2022 class) I'm not sure who lists Hergott second or if he could carry undecided Western Kentucky. I think Burton or Sharon takes some of the WKY votes.

Mayfield/Fulton County is canceled.

They haven't announced the seedings. RPI could change. They are showing virtual outcomes based on latest RPI Most districts' playoff seedings aren't completely listed or finalized: https://khsaa.org/2020-football-district-standings/

So this link just went up: https://khsaa.org/tie-breaking-game-results-non-played-2020-district-football-contests/ It uses up-to-date RPI for virtual games to be applied to district seedings/standings. For example, Scott County and Douglass did not play. Scott County currently has higher RPI. So for their scheduled meeting, Scott County will get a win in district standings and Douglass will get a loss. Notes: 1) Non-played virtual RPI outcomes do NOT count toward KHSAA scoreboard or overall final record 2) RPIs could change based on this week's games (and removal of games toward strength of schedule) 3) There were 61 non-played district games which would use this method to determine winners and losers for district standings Notable "virtual outcomes": *Shawnee would get a "virtual district seeding" win over Owen. *Manual would be credited with win over St. Xavier *Scott County would be credited with win over Frederick Douglass *DeSales would be credited with losses to both CAL and Mercer *Knox Central would be credited with a win over Wayne

Outside of Kentucky Enquirer (who could nominate and vote for Jacob), who among this group votes for Hergott: The Daily Independent, Ashland Daily News, Bowling Green Kentucky Enquirer, Cincinnati Times-Tribune, Corbin The News-Enterprise, Elizabethtown KPG Football, Owensboro Daily Enterprise, Harlan The Gleaner, Henderson Lexington Herald-Leader, Lexington Courier-Journal, Louisville The Mayfield Messenger, Mayfield The Ledger Independent, Maysville Owensboro Messenger-Inquirer, Owensboro The Paducah Sun, Paducah WKYX, Paducah Do people forget the same people who vote on the AP poll they rip on are also the Mr. Football selectors?

Game is AT Lexington Christian, so home field for LCA.

Elizabethtown also has larger John Hardin next week. Winning record plus larger-class bonus.

HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL 🏈 Elizabethtown leads at Bardstown midway thru 3Q, 33-0. EHS QB Clay Games has passed for 3 TDs, ran for 1 TD. E'town's Camden Williams has 2 INTs. E'town's Cam McNeil has 1 rushing TD and 1 receiving TD

Henderson is open 10.30. They're solid.

I've seen video. Good player. Should make a college very happy. You do realize most of the voters are NOT going to have seen him play, right? Because Beechwood has made so many trips to Louisville or the mountains or Lexington or the Purchase. 99 percent of high school players are NOT the elite of the elite. And no small feat being a very good high school player -- which he definitely is. I just have yet to see how he is pulling away when we have kids from bigger schools with better records with similar stats and better offers. How is he "pulling away" and would you convince a non NKY person of that?

Would be a heck of a schedule switch in 2020 for North Hardin. Add Frederick Douglass, Belfry, South Warren and X? Yeesh.

I'm trying to figure out why we're pushing him. He has the accuracy going for him. Not the most mobile QB (see Belfry or Henderson). Not the most TDs or best TD/Int (see Brady Clark of Bardstown, whose numbers are nuts for an unbeaten team from a bigger school). Not the most passing yards per game (Broyles of Franklin would dwarf him if played same amount of games). Not the best record or biggest school or toughest schedule (Another QB close by, Jacob, has him beat in all 3). As far as SOS? You all didn't seem to think that highly of Ryle or Dixie Heights when 1-3 and just blasted by 30 Fern Creek jumped them in 6A rankings. Not the best college offers, even if just limited to senior QBs. Yet, somehow his combination is a frontrunner and pulling away? You think anyone West of 75 believes that? I have no problem with him getting all-state votes. I have no problem with him being KFCA Class Mr. Football. But elite of the elite? Sorry, can't get there.

So a kid from a multiple-loss small school who is not in top 10 in QB rating, has a SOS rating over 40 and doesn't have many major offers is the Mr. Football FRONTRUNNER? And he is pulling away? This is the only site that is championing this possibility. You all really need to look up Nick Bohn and see how Hergott stacks up. And Bohn had no shot at Mr. Football. You all think Hergott is accurate? Bohn set the freaking national record. And did it against a schedule that blows Beechwood to oblivion. And again, he had no shot.

Seeding based on RPI is horrible. North Hardin had a better RPI than Trinity last season. Guess Trinity upset North Hardin? And KHSAA RPI for volleyball has Sacred Heart at ... 27th. Sure. Sounds realistic.

I find it interesting that BluegrassPreps has the same 8 teams that are in the top 8 of CalPreps.com, just in different orders. BGP 9 and 10 is where it gets whacky. Oldham is 15th in Cal and Fern Creek is 16th. So I think you could consider 9 Dixie Heights (3-3), 10 Ryle (3-3), 11 Dunbar (3-1), 12 Simon Kenton (3-3), 13 Henderson (3-1), 14 PRP (2-2). Dixie Heights (2 in Beechwood and Simon Kenton) and Ryle (2 in Dixie Heights and Campbell County) both have better wins than Fern Creek's best/only win. CalPreps says Dunbar's win over Henry Clay is comparable to Fern Creek beating Bullitt East, but CalPreps says Lexington Christian (Dunbar's loss) is better than Fern Creek's losses to Oldham and Ballard ... when Fern Creek scored a whopping 1 combined TD. Fern Creek lost by 30 and went up?!

CalPreps/MaxPreps says Jacob has played a tougher schedule than Hergott, 2.3-1.8 http://calpreps.com/2020/ratings/Kentucky_all.htm Beechwood's overall SOS is 41st in the state. There are several players on this list with tougher schedules. There are unlisted players with tougher schedules and better SOS.

According to MaxPreps' computer, Ashland played the weakest schedule of the top 19 teams in the final MaxPreps computer ratings released: https://www.maxpreps.com/m/rankings/basketball/1/state/kentucky.htm Also, *IF* Zek Montgomery and Darrius Washington are both gone from Fern Creek, I don't see Tigers as top five still:

I ran the numbers. Other than completion percentage, I'm not sure he is among the state's elite in anything. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkTlvpcWoAI5sX3.jpg

Correction to original post: North Hardin lost at Breathitt County in 2002, 48-12. So North Hardin's third trip to the mountains in 20-ish seasons. https://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsaa/kyfb2/12899

Here is Frederick Douglass' updated schedule (now showing the St. X home game on Nov. 6th) which was posted to twitter earlier this morning. I'm gonna guess fans will be able to watch on PrepSpin.

HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS BASKETBALL COLLEGE OFFERS FOR CURRENT KENTUCKY PLAYERS | COMPILED BY @NATEINSPORTS AT LEAST ONE (1) NCAA DIVISION-I OFFER PLAYER SCHOOL YEAR OFFERS OFFERS FROM Harley Paynter Boyd County 2021 13 Charleston Southern, Evansville, Fairfield, Fresno St, Jacksonville St, Morehead St, Murray St, Navy, Samford, Southern Utah, Tennessee Tech, Toledo, WKU Mya Meredith Scott (NKY) 2021 10 EKU, FIU, Indiana St, Lipscomb, Middle Tennessee, Morehead St, Murray St, NKU, Syracuse, WKU Mace Blevins Wayne County 2021 9 Austin Peay, Chattanooga, Dayton, EKU, Indiana St, Marshall, NKU, Samford, WKU Brooklyn Miles Franklin County 2021 6 Cincinnati, Kentucky, Miami, NC State, Purdue, TENNESSEE Amiya Jenkins Anderson County 2022 6 +6 Cassidy Rowe Shelby Valley 2021 5 Dayton, KENTUCKY, Murray St, Morehead St, NKU Tiarra East Butler 2021 5 Alabama A&M, Indiana St, Marshall, Murray St, SIU Brie Crittendon Ryle 2021 4 Austin Peay, Bellarmine, Chattanooga, EKU Zakiyah Johnson Shelby County 2025 3 Kentucky, Louisville, Northern Kentucky Jaya McClure Christian Academy-Louisville 2022 3 Arkansas-Pine Pluff, Bellarmine, Lipscomb Haven Ford Rowan County 2023 3 Marshall, Morehead State, NKU Hayden Barrier Montgomery County 2024 2 Eastern Kentucky, Morehead State Shaelyn Steele Russell Independent (NEKY) 2024 2 Eastern Kentucky, Marshall Macy Runner Nelson County 2023 2 Western Kentucky, +1 Whitney Lind Cooper 2023 2 Charleston, NKU Sydney Lockard Dixie Heights 2021 3 Alabama A&M, Claflin, Thomas More Elise Ellison-Coons Paul Dunbar 2021 2 Charleston Southern, Pikeville Rachel Presley South Laurel 2022 2 Murray State, Pikeville Trinity Rowe Pikeville 2024 2 Eastern Kentucky, Pikeville Leslie Baxter Butler 2021 1 Alabama A&M Emma Egan Bullitt East 2022 1 Bellarmine JaKayla Thompson DuPont Manual 2023 1 Eastern Kentucky Audrey Biggs Boyd County 2024 1 Marshall Kennedy Lee DuPont Manual 2022 1 Niagara Marie Kiefer Bishop Brossart 2021 1 Northern Kentucky Macey Feldman Notre Dame 2022 1 Northern Kentucky Jaileyah Cotton Bardstown 2022 1 Northern Kentucky Destiny Thomas McCracken County 2023 1 Northern Kentucky Timberlynn Yeast Mercer County 2023 1 Northern Kentucky Kay Freihofer Cooper 2023 1 Northern Kentucky Jacqueline Jackson Greenwood 2021 1 Western Kentucky Abby Holtman Ryle 2023 1 Wright State OTHER (NON-NCAA D1) OFFERS PLAYER SCHOOL YEAR OFFERS OFFERS FROM Laci Reinhart Dixie Heights 2021 11 Bethel (KS), Crowley's Ridge, Georgetown, IU-Southeast, Johnson, Ky Christian, Oakland City, Ohio Christian, Rochester, Thomas More, Union Morgan Marie Flanagan St. Henry 2021 5 Grace Christian, Johnson, Lincoln Christian, St. Louis Pharmacy, Union Rory O'Hara Highlands 2021 5 Crowley's Ridge, Florida Southern, Oakland City, Rochester, Union Kaeli Ross Russell Independent (NEKY) 2021 4 Georgetown. Pikeville, Point Park, Rio Grande Kenzie Herald Owsley County 2021 4 Barclay, Dyersburg St, Southwestern Illinois, Union Selena Granado Bullitt East 2021 4 Georgetown, IU-East, IU-Southeast, Union Sofia Allen Scott (NKY) 2021 3 Georgetown, Tampa, Thomas More Kenzie Maynard Belfry 2021 3 Alice Lloyd, Lindsey Wilson, Pikeville Alyssa Elswick Shelby Valley 2022 2 Kentucky Christian, Pikeville Bailey Rucker Boyd County 2021 2 Gordon, Pikeville Chelsey Napier Perry County Central 2021 2 CUMBERLANDS, Union Jaiden Cox Union County 2021 2 Cumberlands, Pikeville Katie Moore Floyd Central 2021 2 Alice Lloyd, Rio Grande Mia Hale Estill County 2022 2 Kentucky Christian, Union Sophie Smith Anderson County 2021 2 Campbellsville, Georgetown Shelby Stewart Corbin 2021 1 Alice Lloyd Braylee McMath Great Crossing 2021 1 Christian Brothers Kylie Jackson Green County 2021 1 Columbia International Whitney Caldwell Pineville 2021 1 CUMBERLANDS Casey Coleman Rockcastle County 2021 1 CUMBERLANDS Amelia Hodges Bethlehem 2021 1 Lindsey Wilson Camryn Preston Danville 2021 1 Lindsey Wilson Kyera Thornsbury Belfry 2024 1 Pikeville Sammi Sites Johnson Central//Martin Co 2021 1 Pikeville Alexa Smith Southwestern 2021 1 TREVECCA NAZARENE Brianna (Bree) Howard South Laurel 2021 1 Union Jenna Gallimore Meade County 2021 1 WEST FLORIDA Clara Collins South Laurel 2023 NA NA Marissa Gasaway Eastern 2021 NA NA Halle Collins North Laurel 2025 NA NA

Foreign exchange is excluded from the parental move. Getting basketball players from all over America and multi-year players from Africa (instead of single-season, like foreign exchange) is different though. Louisville Holy Cross has dorms. The players at Aspire attend Holy Cross and play for Aspire. They would never be eligible at Holy Cross.

Doesn't matter. Kids can go to school there if they want. If basketball kids start transferring in and their parents aren't buying new houses (cutting ties to old location completely) or not getting jobs in the Knott County area, red flags are gonna go up. Dorms don't make a darn bit of difference. It's where the parents and family live and where the parents work in order to drop the transfer sitout rule.

Cordia already tried it. Becoming another Oak Hill is hard with KHSAA enrollment and transfer criteria. Mainly the parents having to change jobs or buy a new house (monthly leases don't count) and give up all ties to former residence.