Josh Sewell for Mr. Basketball

[rockmom]

I think of the Sewell/Watts debate like this:

 

Over their careers, would there be much difference if the two had traded places? Remember that Watts has put up some nice numbers since his 8th grade year. I think that considering this, it looks like more of a push. Sewell's teams have certainly done better, but he has more talent around him to get it done with, more exposure, and more competition to push him day-in and day-out.

 

 

I need more help understanding this one.

 

Possibly Sewell has more talent around him. Although, I must say, it's funny that the words "Trinity" and "more talent" and "basketball" are all in the same sentence together. :lol:

 

I think the exposure is due to the toughness of the region, the tournaments they've played in more than anything. It's not like Trinity is everybody's "go to" basketball program.

 

Competition..do you mean games or practice? I'd definitely say that the competition Sewell and his teammates face has to rank right up there with the best in the state, give the 7th region and all.

 

Anyway...can you help by expounding further?

[JokersWild24]

I need more help understanding this one.

 

Possibly Sewell has more talent around him. Although, I must say, it's funny that the words "Trinity" and "more talent" and "basketball" are all in the same sentence together. :lol:

 

I think the exposure is due to the toughness of the region, the tournaments they've played in more than anything. It's not like Trinity is everybody's "go to" basketball program.

 

Competition..do you mean games or practice? I'd definitely say that the competition Sewell and his teammates face has to rank right up there with the best in the state, give the 7th region and all.

 

Anyway...can you help by expounding further?

 

 

Competition... games and practice. He goes against better players daily regardless of the situation.

 

Exposure... he plays in the Louisville area, and I'm willing to guess that the area has more AAU/travel opportunities than Stearns, KY.

 

Talent around him.... Trinity is second in the state for a reason. I've seen both teams play and I wouldn't trade Epley for anyone not named Sewell or Watts.

 

I'm not saying Sewell shouldn't win Mr. Basketball. Right now, I think he should.

 

But the 'no respect' card because he's from Trinity doesn't fly with me. I haven't seen an article in one of the state's largest newspapers that touts anyone else as deserving Mr. Basketball with a few weeks left in the season.

[rockmom]

Competition... games and practice. He goes against better players daily regardless of the situation.

 

Exposure... he plays in the Louisville area, and I'm willing to guess that the area has more AAU/travel opportunities than Stearns, KY.

 

Talent around him.... Trinity is second in the state for a reason. I've seen both teams play and I wouldn't trade Epley for anyone not named Sewell or Watts.

 

I'm not saying Sewell shouldn't win Mr. Basketball. Right now, I think he should.

 

But the 'no respect' card because he's from Trinity doesn't fly with me. I haven't seen an article in one of the state's largest newspapers that touts anyone else as deserving Mr. Basketball with a few weeks left in the season.

 

Still confused on the bolded...does that mean you think Trinity has a more talented team overall? Or that Sewell looks good because his team isn't as talented?

[rockmom]

Competition... games and practice. He goes against better players daily regardless of the situation.

I guess this could go either way. I mean, it seems you're discounting Sewell's performance based upon that, but you seem to be also saying players who are having a great season playing less competition would fare as well. And I'm not sure how that works.

 

Exposure... he plays in the Louisville area, and I'm willing to guess that the area has more AAU/travel opportunities than Stearns, KY.

AAU and travel opportunities are what you make them. I know players from Louisville who've played on NKY teams. So, to me, that's not a valid reason.

 

Talent around him.... Trinity is second in the state for a reason. I've seen both teams play and I wouldn't trade Epley for anyone not named Sewell or Watts.

 

I'm not saying Sewell shouldn't win Mr. Basketball. Right now, I think he should.

 

But the 'no respect' card because he's from Trinity doesn't fly with me. I haven't seen an article in one of the state's largest newspapers that touts anyone else as deserving Mr. Basketball with a few weeks left in the season.

 

Well, who's the last private school Mr. Basketball? How many Louisville Mr. Basketball's have been produced? You can change the name of the school to any private school in the state. It's not a "no respect" card. It's a matter of statistics.

[JokersWild24]

No, I think that they have far more talent than you're giving me credit for. I meant the 2nd in the state comment as a way of saying that Trinity has talent other than Sewell.

 

I think that Sewell and Epley are extremely talented, and they have a solid core of players around them who get the most out of their talent by buying into the system and giving it their all.

 

I was just referring to the talent debate more in terms of a way of gauging Sewell against Watts given their supporting casts.

[JokersWild24]

As for the competition: I think it maximizes a player's potential when they are able to go against other players who push them on a daily basis. Sewell has been given a great opportunity to prove that he deserves Mr. Basketball by playing against it.

 

As for the exposure/AAU: That's easy to say, but it's not invalid to think the resources available to a student at a school like Trinity make them more probable of making a shorter drive to attend AAU practices and events than a student in the middle of Southern Kentucky where the drive to the closest major city (Nashville) is 2 hours away.

 

By the way, the last private school Mr. Basketball was St. Xavier's Mike Silliman in 1962; Also, Louisville schools account for 13 of the 55 Mr. Basketball award winners (two in 1958). And you can't make up statistics, you can only misconstrue them. Either way, I can look them up.

 

Sewell should have a fair chance at winning Mr. Basketball, I have a really credible source who leaked some info to me today that the state agreed to end their conspiracy against private school players in Louisville. :isurrender:

[3fromdeep]

Who's resume is better than Sewell's right now? No ones.

 

Justice is a close second . After that, I'm going with Watts and Ian Chiles from Ballard.

 

The Scott County and Holmes players will cancel each other out.

[Log Mountain Boy]

Who's resume is better than Sewell's right now? No ones.

Justice is a close second . After that, I'm going with Watts and Ian Chiles from Ballard.

 

The Scott County and Holmes players will cancel each other out.

 

Watts has had a huge year too. Sewell is right there and deserving right now as are several other guys. But thats right now. Lets see how things play out before crowning someone Mr. Basketball yet.

[loubballfan]

 

Watts has had a huge year too. Sewell is right there and deserving right now as are several other guys. But thats right now. Lets see how things play out before crowning someone Mr. Basketball yet.

 

I just don't think that the regionn/state tourney are where you crown the Mr. Bball. It's the season as a whole.

 

With that logic, Jon Hood should have finished well back in the pack because he played on a bad team.

 

You can't penalize a kid because he has to play THE hardest possible schedule(7th region tourney) in the state to get to Rupp.

[passtheball]

I just don't think that the regionn/state tourney are where you crown the Mr. Bball. It's the season as a whole.

 

With that logic, Jon Hood should have finished well back in the pack because he played on a bad team.

 

You can't penalize a kid because he has to play THE hardest possible schedule(7th region tourney) in the state to get to Rupp.

 

Bingo.

[rockmom]

As for the competition: I think it maximizes a player's potential when they are able to go against other players who push them on a daily basis. Sewell has been given a great opportunity to prove that he deserves Mr. Basketball by playing against it.

 

As for the exposure/AAU: That's easy to say, but it's not invalid to think the resources available to a student at a school like Trinity make them more probable of making a shorter drive to attend AAU practices and events than a student in the middle of Southern Kentucky where the drive to the closest major city (Nashville) is 2 hours away.

 

By the way, the last private school Mr. Basketball was St. Xavier's Mike Silliman in 1962; Also, Louisville schools account for 13 of the 55 Mr. Basketball award winners (two in 1958). And you can't make up statistics, you can only misconstrue them. Either way, I can look them up.

 

Sewell should have a fair chance at winning Mr. Basketball, I have a really credible source who leaked some info to me today that the state agreed to end their conspiracy against private school players in Louisville. :isurrender:

 

I guess I just get the overall sense that you feel Sewell has opportunities that other players don't, and I don't understand it. I think he has a fair chance to win it. And I don't necessarily think that if he doesn't it's because he's from Trinity. But, I don't understand how anyone thinks it was easy for him to even enter into consideration, let alone be one of the top contenders. When you think basketball schools in the state of Kentucky I'd say Trinity is WAY down the list of first schools on anyone's list. And, to top that, I don't think it would be easy for ANY player in the 7th region to win, especially if much hinges on getting to the state tournament. There are a lot of great players in the 7th, and there always are. So, the fact that he's standing out among them seems like an incredible accomplishment to me. And that he's won 3 major tournament MVP awards as well.

 

But, the kid doesn't seem to let the Mr. Basketball award be the end-all of his success. He's already stated that his goal is to lead Trinity to success. To me, Mr. Basketball or not, he's a winner.

[UKYBBALL]

State Championships 2- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

Region Championships 2- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

Sweet 16 wins 1- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

State records 1- Elisha Justice 0 - Josh Sewell

Size of school SV-500 (boys and girls) Trinity -3000 (Boys only)

 

They should be better in the regular season and post season because of what they have to pull from, but they have never been to RUPP. Still have a chance though.

 

 

As far as winning all 3 REGULAR season tournaments, one is saying only Louisville players can win Mr. Basketball. The LIT did not take any outside teams this year.

 

Over the last four years you can see above Justice has done more for his team!

[gorocks1791]

State Championships 2- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

Region Championships 2- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

Sweet 16 wins 1- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

State records 1- Elisha Justice 0 - Josh Sewell

Size of school SV-500 (boys and girls) Trinity -3000 (Boys only)

 

They should be better in the regular season and post season because of what they have to pull from, but they have never been to RUPP. Still have a chance though.

 

 

As far as winning all 3 REGULAR season tournaments, one is saying only Louisville players can win Mr. Basketball. The LIT did not take any outside teams this year.

 

Over the last four years you can see above Justice has done more for his team!

 

It does not matter what he has done in the past. This is THIS years Mr. Basketball. It matters what he has done this year.

[loubballfan]

State Championships 2- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

Region Championships 2- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

Sweet 16 wins 1- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell

State records 1- Elisha Justice 0 - Josh Sewell

Size of school SV-500 (boys and girls) Trinity -3000 (Boys only)

 

They should be better in the regular season and post season because of what they have to pull from, but they have never been to RUPP. Still have a chance though.

 

 

As far as winning all 3 REGULAR season tournaments, one is saying only Louisville players can win Mr. Basketball. The LIT did not take any outside teams this year.

 

Over the last four years you can see above Justice has done more for his team!

 

State Championships 2- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell Top 20 teams beaten-one

Region Championships 2- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell Top 20 teams beaten-none

Sweet 16 wins 1- Elisha Justice 0- Josh Sewell op 20 teams beaten-none

State records 1- Elisha Justice 0 -

Size of school SV-500 (boys and girls) Trinity -3000 1300 (Boys only)

 

Nice resume but so does the best player at Collegiate- point being that the kid has accomplished a lot against inferior players- doesn't mean he's not a good player, just not as good as the kid doing it against THE BEST the state has to offer.

 

Sewell has been CLEARLY the best!!

[UKYBBALL]

How many teams east of Lexington are there for SV to play in the top 20? They had to drive all the way to Louisville to get a game with one. (You all are hogging all of them in the 7th, haha!)