February 4, 200719 yr Hello Big Bubba - good to have you on board. Frances My Avatar is an actual photo of me at fatman noon ball at the Ashland Ymca, or maybe it is Gordon Dill.
February 4, 200719 yr My Avatar is an actual photo of me at fatman noon ball at the Ashland Ymca, or maybe it is Gordon Dill. Well, I've heard many people say that in your prime, you were almost as good as Gordon Dill. Not sure that i agree with that, but I've heard it said... Frances
February 4, 200719 yr Author This fact is stated numerous times in the New Testament. I'll have to respectfully disagree with your assertion. That seems to be treading down the road of mixing law and grace..."you're saved by accepting Jesus and doing (blank)"....It doesn't work that way. We're saved by grace through faith...there are no works we can do to attain or keep salvation. I think the Christian life would be lacking if we were constantly wondering if we were still saved or not. ok, then I guess Jesus was wrong when He said that those who persevere until the end will be saved. When we meet Him, we can explain to Him that all was have to do is accept Him as our savior and that we do NOT have to persevere until the end. He was mistaken.
February 4, 200719 yr ok, then I guess Jesus was wrong when He said that those who persevere until the end will be saved. When we meet Him, we can explain to Him that all was have to do is accept Him as our savior and that we do NOT have to persevere until the end. He was mistaken. I think He made that clear enough... it would be superfluous to explain it to Him.
February 4, 200719 yr I think He made that clear enough... it would be superfluous to explain it to Him. I think CCH5542 was somewhere between sarcastic and rhetorical when he wrote his post. Frances
February 4, 200719 yr I think CCH5542 was somewhere between sarcastic and rhetorical when he wrote his post. Frances ok.
February 5, 200719 yr There should be a "Sarcastic icon" on here. I'd have more friends if there were.
February 5, 200719 yr There should be a "Sarcastic icon" on here. I'd have more friends if there were. Take your pick. :sssh:
February 5, 200719 yr I think CCH5542 was somewhere between sarcastic and rhetorical when he wrote his post. Frances I think Habib was too...
February 5, 200719 yr ok, then I guess Jesus was wrong when He said that those who persevere until the end will be saved. When we meet Him, we can explain to Him that all was have to do is accept Him as our savior and that we do NOT have to persevere until the end. He was mistaken. John 5:24 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgement, but has passed from death into life. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. John 11:25,26 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" New Kings James Version All quotes from Jesus. Am I missing something?
February 5, 200719 yr If y'all want to talk about salvation, start a new thread. This thread is about the necessity to attend church.
February 5, 200719 yr If y'all want to talk about salvation, start a new thread. This thread is about the necessity to attend church. My bad...I thought there was a connection there.
February 5, 200719 yr If y'all want to talk about salvation, start a new thread. This thread is about the necessity to attend church. We are off the track of the thread. But, the argument for those who feel church is necessary is linked to their view of salvation. Do you have to go to church to be saved, or can you go to heaven without ever setting foot in a church?
February 5, 200719 yr We are off the track of the thread. But, the argument for those who feel church is necessary is linked to their view of salvation. Do you have to go to church to be saved, or can you go to heaven without ever setting foot in a church? :thumb: Which is the connection I was drawing there...
February 5, 200719 yr The thief on the cross never set foot in a church and Jesus said " today, you will be with me in paradise". However, IMO, If a person has accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior they will want to be in a place of public worship. It is my belief that if a person has accepted Jesus as Lord (note: with a capital L) they will worship publically and serve Him through His church.
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