oldoc Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 There are plenty of NAIA and D2 schools that will give kids with this kind of talent a full ride. I would be shocked FCS schools don't make a move. I wouldn't advise these kids to walk on anywhere, especially UK. Go somewhere that really wants you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newarkcatholicfan Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Congrats to those young men. I really hope they get D-1 scholarship offers before all is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireman Posted December 5, 2017 Author Share Posted December 5, 2017 Told by a source that Georgetown College was in Danville today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Tiger 17 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Is Brett Slusher from Beechwood a walk on? He is listed on Gameday roster. Yes he was a walk on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 D2 and NAIA very rarely offer full rides in football. Maybe a 25-50% tuition coverage. This is a commonly repeated fallacy. My son just finished his senior season at an NAIA college and although he did not receive a FULL scholarship (50%), many players on his team did. My son was offered very close to full scholarship at several NAIA schools, I'm talking 90%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT DIESEL POWER Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Question is this IMO, accept a PWO at a D1 school or accept a full ride at D2 and/or NAIA? Money talks. Also why are these kids only offered PWO's and not full scholarships? Kentucky has certainly made more than their fair share of mistakes when it comes to judging in-state talent. See the Elam kid as reason number 1 and he is just one in a long line of blunders that staff has made. Unfortunately in most cases size matter just as much as talent if you can get a kid that is just as talented but couple inches taller or a few pound heavier or lighter teams will do that. The mind set is that if you can get a kid taking van cleave who is phenomenal but a bit short for most d1 receivers to take a pwo then you save a scholarship. It may not be the right way of thinking but that’s just the reality you get a phenomenal player at a fraction of the price so to speak. As far as Elam IMO when a player is a 5 star and they end up not doing much they are a bust but when a 2 star makes it to the first round the coach is a genius m. However both of these boil down to coaching and I don’t think the UK staff has done a tremendous job developing the player they have recruited. If and it is a big if but if Elam has went to bama we may not be talking about the same kid at this point in his career. Either way these are fine young men that deserve everything that they get and have worked hard to earn it congrats guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85_Rebel Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 In my mind, VanCleave is a D1 return specialist. Sub 4.3 40 yd time. You simply cannot teach that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straitshooter Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 In my mind, VanCleave is a D1 return specialist. Sub 4.3 40 yd time. You simply cannot teach that. I haven't seen VanCleave play, but I have heard nothing but good things about him. I think we might be getting carried away saying he runs a sub 4.3 40. That's like top 10 all-time at the NFL combine. I'm sure he is exceptionally fast for a high schooler, but I don't think he is sub 4.3 40 fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85_Rebel Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I haven't seen VanCleave play, but I have heard nothing but good things about him. I think we might be getting carried away saying he runs a sub 4.3 40. That's like top 10 all-time at the NFL combine. I'm sure he is exceptionally fast for a high schooler, but I don't think he is sub 4.3 40 fast. 4.295 was what I saw somewhere out there. Wireman surely knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireman Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 I haven't seen VanCleave play, but I have heard nothing but good things about him. I think we might be getting carried away saying he runs a sub 4.3 40. That's like top 10 all-time at the NFL combine. I'm sure he is exceptionally fast for a high schooler, but I don't think he is sub 4.3 40 fast. You need to watch him play to appreciate how fast he truly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85_Rebel Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Quote Originally Posted by Wireman View Post The Admirals are 13-0, and VanCleave is a big reason why. “I think he’s just improved, he was fast last year, I think he’s probably a step faster this year,” Danville head coach Clay Clevenger said. “He did that because he worked really hard in the weight room in the offseason. He got his body built up in muscle added and he’s got more confidence all the way around.” Over the summer, VanCleave said he ran a laser-timed 4.39 40-yard dash at a football camp at Kentucky. During a hand-timed 40-yard dash at Lindsey Wilson, he ran a 4.28. He said he’s added seven pounds of muscle as well. “I think I’ve gotten a lot faster and a lot stronger,” VanCleave said. “Overall team-wise, I think our bond and our chemistry is just good, and that makes me a better individual player, offensively and defensively.” VanCleave leads Admirals back to state in senior season, wins Offensive Player of the Year | The Advocate-Messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straitshooter Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 You need to watch him play to appreciate how fast he truly is. I can appreciate how fast he is. I believe he is truly fast. I just don't think he is NFL combine all-time fast. Fast is fast. By all accounts, it is special. I believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT DIESEL POWER Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I can appreciate how fast he is. I believe he is truly fast. I just don't think he is NFL combine all-time fast. Fast is fast. By all accounts, it is special. I believe that. Average time for receiver at the combine is 4.55 which would make van cleave being clocked in laser and having an official time of 4.37 nfl speed just throwing that out there. At last years combine he would have had the 6th fastest time there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchs_uk9 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Van Cleave's problem, just like a large number of high school athletes, is his size. He's an outstanding player capable of competing at a high level, but with a limited number of available scholarships most Division I schools aren't willing to take a chance on someone so far off the measurables list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADopted ADmiral Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 How much bigger was Craig Yeast his senior year of high school than VanCleave is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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