June 29, 201511 yr Then you do not understand the concept of salvation and will fail to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Not a problem if I have to be bigoted, hateful, devalue others. Your understanding supercedes others? I get it you understand the bible and its teachings and others do not. I get your beliefs and your unrelenting, fundamental thinking, however, your saying that someone will fail to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, is just a person's (not all persons) undertstanding of salvation. Give me a break from your self righteous, unrelenting, undignified thoughts on the Bible. This decision was about equal rights, not religious rights. It is the law. Anytime persons mix religion with politics, they will eventually be on the short end of the stick in this country with this Constitution. Something about the separation thingy.
June 29, 201511 yr Not a problem if I have to be bigoted, hateful, devalue others. Your understanding supercedes others? I get it you understand the bible and its teachings and others do not. I get your beliefs and your unrelenting, fundamental thinking, however, your saying that someone will fail to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, is just a person's (not all persons) undertstanding of salvation. Give me a break from your self righteous, unrelenting, undignified thoughts on the Bible. This decision was about equal rights, not religious rights. It is the law. Anytime persons mix religion with politics, they will eventually be on the short end of the stick in this country with this Constitution. Something about the separation thingy. Is this the case if you don't agree with homosexuality? Is unrelenting and convictions one in the same?
June 29, 201511 yr Not a problem if I have to be bigoted, hateful, devalue others. Your understanding supercedes others? I get it you understand the bible and its teachings and others do not. I get your beliefs and your unrelenting, fundamental thinking, however, your saying that someone will fail to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, is just a person's (not all persons) undertstanding of salvation. Give me a break from your self righteous, unrelenting, undignified thoughts on the Bible. This decision was about equal rights, not religious rights. It is the law. Anytime persons mix religion with politics, they will eventually be on the short end of the stick in this country with this Constitution. Something about the separation thingy. Don't worry. As we are NOT to judge anyone's standing with God!
June 29, 201511 yr Then you do not understand the concept of salvation and will fail to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
June 29, 201511 yr Is this the case if you don't agree with homosexuality? Is unrelenting and convictions one in the same? Not at all and I never said that, I was referring to the individual poster's take on salvation and my perceived definitions of his thinking. This person tends to define things, such as what is conservative, salvation, etc., so I can have my definitions. One can have convictions and relent IMO.
June 29, 201511 yr Not at all and I never said that, I was referring to the individual poster's take on salvation and my perceived definitions of his thinking. This person tends to define things, such as what is conservative, salvation, etc., so I can have my definitions. One can have convictions and relent IMO. The definition of conviction is a firmly held opinion or belief. Doesn't exactly should like something one could relent from. So if the poster truly believes, as is stated in the Bible, that the only way to enter heaven is by excepting Jesus as your savior, he should lie to make someone feel better? Admittedly his presentation could have been softer but the Bible instructs Christians to spread the gospel.
June 29, 201511 yr So you are fair, equal, good, and kind 100% of the time? If not what about the times you are not? Does your maker just turn a blind eye or do you think he keeps score of the good things versus the bad things and if the good things out number the bad you will be deserving? What if what you see as good isn't so good from your maker's point of view? Not trying to be argumentative just always wondered if people really want to receive what they actually deserve. I definitely do not want to receive what I deserve. I want mercy. (Titus 3:4-7)
June 29, 201511 yr Anytime persons mix religion with politics, they will eventually be on the short end of the stick in this country with this Constitution. Something about the separation thingy. To a degree I guess. But remember that the separation of church and state is not a concept that is included anywhere in the Constitution. I also think that one can make the argument that the Supreme Court are the ones who just mixed religion and politics.
June 29, 201511 yr I also think that one can make the argument that the Supreme Court are the ones who just mixed religion and politics. How so?
June 29, 201511 yr To a degree I guess. But remember that the separation of church and state is not a concept that is included anywhere in the Constitution. I also think that one can make the argument that the Supreme Court are the ones who just mixed religion and politics. What about the prohibition of religious tests for political office? That is a foundation for separatists. What about non-establishment amendment? Those two alone are "concepts" that lead to Jefferson's rationale and later Supreme Court decisions.
June 29, 201511 yr I also think that one can make the argument that the Supreme Court are the ones who just mixed religion and politics. I don't see how. This ruling has zero impact on how the church recognizes marriages, whether same-sex or hetero, that are performed outside the church, and it's not forcing the church to perform these marriages.
June 29, 201511 yr So you are fair, equal, good, and kind 100% of the time? If not what about the times you are not? Does your maker just turn a blind eye or do you think he keeps score of the good things versus the bad things and if the good things out number the bad you will be deserving? What if what you see as good isn't so good from your maker's point of view? Not trying to be argumentative just always wondered if people really want to receive what they actually deserve. Nope, no one is. If myself and a Hindu individual live our lives by the same morals, are good and loving to others and are both genuinely sorry when we screw up, do you really believe God will say, "Sorry about your luck?". I don't. I know that's not a viewpoint that's popular with most Christians, and I'm okay with that.
June 29, 201511 yr Then you do not understand the concept of salvation and will fail to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I'll take my chances and live by God's most important commandments. You don't seem to bother listening to those.
June 29, 201511 yr @BreakingNews: Texas attorney general: Clerks can refuse to issue gay marriage licenses based on religious objections - @Statesman Texas AG: County clerks can refuse gay couples | www.statesman.com If it bothers them that much they can resign.
June 29, 201511 yr Nope, no one is. If myself and a Hindu individual live our lives by the same morals, are good and loving to others and are both genuinely sorry when we screw up, do you really believe God will say, "Sorry about your luck?". I don't. I know that's not a viewpoint that's popular with most Christians, and I'm okay with that. I agree. On one hand, we fundamentally talk about how great, loving and forgiving God is. But on the other, we are told by fundamentalists to believe that most of the people in the world are born into situations (based simply on where they live) where they will have no opportunity to receive salvation. And forget other religions, there is a lot of ambiguity among the various Christian religions, as to how to achieve salvation.
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