June 29, 201511 yr I believe that the Bible is inspired by God. So yes I think he would say "sorry about your luck". I think there is accountability, choices, and consequence for those choices. If you choose to ignore God and live life by your own rules then ok and I respect your decision. Understand I'm not preaching at you or trying to beat you over the head I'm just trying to answer your question the best I know how. My biggest contention with anything you say is when you say 'we are good and loving to others'. By nature we (humans) are neither. And for someone who grew up in the Christian faith, exposed to the Gospel, I would agree with your take. However, what about those that grew up outside of the Christian faith, immersed within another religion?? You wouldn't have been choosing to ignore God...your only worshiping the God that you were exposed to, much of that exposure coming from your parents, whom your supposed to honor and obey. Some of these religions are older than Christianity, and hold equal or even worse consequences for those who stray from their faith.
June 29, 201511 yr Nope, I believe that is now established law, isn't it? You can close though if your religious conviction is that strong. I have no idea that's why I asked. So the options for those who disagree is to quit your job and close your business. Seems pretty fair. Of course there is always the option to take to the streets and burn those businesses down. That seems to be popular these days.
June 29, 201511 yr And for someone who grew up in the Christian faith, exposed to the Gospel, I would agree with your take. However, what about those that grew up outside of the Christian faith, immersed within another religion?? You wouldn't have been choosing to ignore God...your only worshiping the God that you were exposed to, much of that exposure coming from your parents, whom your supposed to honor and obey. Some of these religions are older than Christianity, and hold equal or even worse consequences for those who stray from their faith. It comes down to accountability. In much of the world you are persecuted if you are Christian. That's not the case in America, at least not yet. I do think Americans will be held to a higher standard, we have it easy on a relative basis. One thing that is pretty common amongst all religions. They don't support homosexuality. I think UK mustang's Hindu buddy would concur
June 29, 201511 yr I have a question for those who bring up the point of not doing business with himosexuals: Except in the case of wedding planning, or some services where you might find yourself in their home, how would you determine who was or wasn't homosexual?
June 29, 201511 yr I have a question for those who bring up the point of not doing business with himosexuals: Except in the case of wedding planning, or some services where you might find yourself in their home, how would you determine who was or wasn't homosexual? It's pretty open now days. Obviously sometimes it's not but if two men are holding hands it's a pretty safe bet.
June 29, 201511 yr What if I own a business. Can I refuse to serve someone because they are gay? Is there a difference between public servant (I.e. Clerk) and business owner? (Private enterprise)
June 29, 201511 yr Is there a difference between public servant (I.e. Clerk) and business owner? (Private enterprise) I think so. For one if you are a clerk you have a boss. If you are a business owner you don't. Plus, a business owner has taken on the risk of owning a business.
June 29, 201511 yr It's pretty open now days. Obviously sometimes it's not but if two men are holding hands it's a pretty safe bet. So, what you're saying is: Let's say you own a hardware store. Guy comes in buys a lock set...he's by himself. You're good with that sale. Same guy comes in with his sister and they have you cut a key, and you're ok with that sale. Same guy comes in with another guy and buys a saw blade...no holding hands...sale's oky by you. Same guy comes in with another guy and they're holding hands and tries to buy a furnace filter...no dice...he has to take his business elsewhere?
June 29, 201511 yr I have no idea that's why I asked. So the options for those who disagree is to quit your job and close your business. Seems pretty fair. Of course there is always the option to take to the streets and burn those businesses down. That seems to be popular these days. So you think someone should be able to refuse to perform the duties they were hired to do because it goes against their religious beliefs? Sorry, there are other jobs and other businesses to own if one's beliefs are that strong. Is it fair that no one can get marriage licenses in the counties where the clerks are refusing to grant legal licenses? Life isn't fair.
June 30, 201511 yr So you think someone should be able to refuse to perform the duties they were hired to do because it goes against their religious beliefs? Sorry, there are other jobs and other businesses to own if one's beliefs are that strong. Is it fair that no one can get marriage licenses in the counties where the clerks are refusing to grant legal licenses? Life isn't fair. They can move
June 30, 201511 yr One thing I have seen the past few days, this decision is a divider of people. One of the biggest I have seen in my lifetime.
June 30, 201511 yr It comes down to accountability. In much of the world you are persecuted if you are Christian. That's not the case in America, at least not yet. I do think Americans will be held to a higher standard, we have it easy on a relative basis. One thing that is pretty common amongst all religions. They don't support homosexuality. I think UK mustang's Hindu buddy would concur I'm trying to figure out how your response to rjs4470's question was an answer. His topic of kids growing up under different religions was pretty clear. Your response hinted at, but barely addressed it.
June 30, 201511 yr I believe that the Bible is inspired by God. So yes I think he would say "sorry about your luck". I think there is accountability, choices, and consequence for those choices. If you choose to ignore God and live life by your own rules then ok and I respect your decision. Understand I'm not preaching at you or trying to beat you over the head I'm just trying to answer your question the best I know how. My biggest contention with anything you say is when you say 'we are good and loving to others'. By nature we (humans) are neither. You sound like you know the Bible pretty well, so I was wondering how it came to be considered the "Inspired word of God"?
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