Everything posted by Eagle 8
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To all of the local basketball officials
I made no evaluation of officials other than all are not good and should not be doing varsity games. I also referred to bad coaches, bad players, and bad custodians. It is well documented that there is a shortage of officials in the 16th region and there are guys who have no business doing a varsity game sitting on 3 man crews. Players/coaches/parents put in an incredible amount of time and money into high school athletics and deserve the very best in officiating. Again, I'm not saying that these guys are bad guys, and I believe they are doing the best they can but some can not "cut the mustard". For UKCATSFAN this means that you are not gettin' it done! The point of my previous was to point out that the criticism comes with the territory. (for everyone coaches, players etc.) UKCATSFAN, I have officiated many, many games in both baseball and basketball without patting myself on the back on this website.
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To all of the local basketball officials
Everyone knows that it is a tough job and that is why they are paid to do it. The players have a tough job and when they make a mistake someone may yell at them. When a coach makes a mistake someone may yell at them. When the PA makes a mistake someone may yell at them. When the custodian makes a mistake someone may yell at him...do you get the point? 16th region games have turned into a wrestling match and the most common excuse is that we need 3 officials. OK, we do have some very good officials in the 16th but on the ball play is too physical. Bad referees are like bad players, coaches, and custodians...they should not be in position to determine the outcome of a game. Players graduate, coaches get fired, custodians...well they get promoted, and referees move from JV to Varsity regardless of their ability to "cut the mustard". They are all probably good people but there is a lot at stake in high school athletics and criticism comes with the territory...like it or not!
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Best High School basketball Movie EVER!!
1. Hoosiers-maybe we could call it Cuba or Paintsville 2. One on One-Robbie Benson/Annette O'Toole 3. Blue Chip-oscar material for Shaq 4. Fastbreak-Gabe Kaplan...what a coach!, Bernard King, and the chick with the ace bandage (Swish) Lots of social issues in this movie but it's a good one How about the 70's basketball show the "White Shadow"
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Russell @ Elliott Co. Predictions 2-21-06
Weddington and Ferguson will be tough match-ups for Russell as is Vanhoose for Elliott. If Elliott shoots 45% or better from the field they will win. Foul trouble and ft disparity will be critical. Can Russell stop the dribble penetration from Elliott? Do they use some zone? Should be a dandy. "Youth" is more a description of inmaturity and not age, in basketball terms, the Elliott freshmen are mature, seasoned, and experienced.
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Boyd County 59 Russell 57
She can get Gladys Knight and the Pips? Impressive, let's name the regional tournament after her and call the district tournament the Billy Ray Cyrus Country Western 63rd District Tournament. Bring on the Pips :dancingpa
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Boyd County 59 Russell 57
Will she be singing the national anthem or just the birthday requests? :banana:
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Russell losing a player?
Is this like a rock star that has left the stage seemingly finished? Only to return for an encore performance when the lighters (cell phones today) illuminate in the crowd. Foreigner "Feels like the first time" what an encore! Will Clark make 2 encore performances? He already served a 1 game suspension so this would be number 2. Glad the Stones didn't make an encore at the super bowl...I think they were making up new words to "Satisfaction". Back to the subject, no more returns for Clark! He's no Jordan so I'll save my money to see another Jordan return and would even spring for a couple of AC/DC tickets. :ylsuper:
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Freshmen AIT
I don't remember Cleveland State being in UKIT, they have been pretty good over the years. Maybe that team from Indiana...IUPUSI, there may be more letters and the order may be different? You get the picture
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Freshmen AIT
Good grief Doc, don't pop off and then back peddle! Go for the knock-out, shame on Ashland for stacking the odds in their favor in the Ashland Invitational Tournament. Shame on the Cats :irked:
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Russell vs Greenup predictions
No Vanhoose...give me the Muskies in a close one. With Vanhoose...give me the Devils by 10. Wait a minute,is this Rob or Jonathon? If it's No Rob...give me the Devils by 10 and with Rob give me the Muskies in a close one. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Why do we need 3 officials at high school basketball games?
I'll take a 3 man crew that will blow the whistle. The pace of the game, tight defenses, movement away from the ball, multiple screening, are all factors that we need to address. Can 2 guys effectively work a fast paced game? Probably not. Another concern is officials who work college games on one night and then work a high school game the next. The college games are 3 man with more contact on and off the ball which may be partly responsible for the trickle down effect of the physical play. Kinda like driving 70 on the interstate and exiting to a smaller road...it feels as if you are just creeping down the road and you begin to speed. It takes some time to adjust your driving, much like the ref who works a college game on Monday and a high school game on Tuesday.
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3 point line
Very few high school players move on to play college basketball. What we are really preparing them for is becoming productive adults. Everytime someone mentions separating private-public or seeding or classification we screem "why change". The more changes we implement in high school, the closer it resembles the pro game. Is that really what we want?
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Should there be no district tournaments?
Tubby, no need for everyone to play each other. Would a #16 losing to a #1 have any impact on seeding? Teams normally schedule based on returning talent so there will be plenty of games between teams of similar stature. Coaches could openly rank teams 1-16 (16 teams in the 16th region). I'm sure some coaches would pat each other on the back (favorable rankings) but in an open meeting you run the risk of looking foolish. This would certainly put more emphasis on regular season games. I have too many ideas on this subject and it's time to get ready for church.
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Why do we need 3 officials at high school basketball games?
It has been my experience that 3 man crews actually blow the whistle less. Officiating has evolved with society. Things we see on tv now would have made us blush 20 years ago but instead we have become desensitized to all the violence, sex, and drugs. It seems "not that bad now" and "turn the channel if you don't like it". By the same token, we watch an NBA game and think that holding, pushing, taunting, self-promoting, arguing with officials is just a part of the game and you need to accept it. I think we should give the power back to the officials and clean up the "Greatest Show On Earth". Kentucky high school basketball. When you start calling fouls for "holding" the coaches and players will soon figure out...you can't do it anymore. It's painful to watch some games when the refs are "letting them play". In football, does letting them play mean that you don't enforce the rules? (clip, unnecessary roughness, off sides, face mask) In baseball, a guy doesn't slide into a base and clobbers a fielder...just letting them play? OK guys, the double play exchange is bending the rules. I'm not blasting the referees, they are officiating the way they are instructed at rules clinics. Letting them play should not mean, not blowing the whistles! :irked:
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Russell vs Rowan predictions
That would be correct, "Clark holds Daniel" :thumb:
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64th District Tourney Site?
Rose Hill did play 4 games in the Palace this season, and played very well. For some reason I think the Greenup district and Boyd district have switched sites before. Wouldn't be as hard to man the doors as it was at Summit a few years ago. The driving distance to Raceland is not out of the question and it seats more than Blazer, Fairview, and Rose Hill. I bet Tubby started the rumor, he's always stirring the pot.
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Should Fairview High School Be Allowed to host the All A Classic again?
Weatherby has been proposed a couple of times the most recent last year, since Fairview started a new rotation. Fairview had no interest in moving to Weatherby nor did most of the other schools. (hard to blame them, the fear was losing a hometown attraction) It's a little different in Northern Kentucky where only a few miles separate most of the schools and NKU is in the middle. Weatherby was even mentioned when Rose Hill/Raceland final a few years ago sparked big interest but Menifee Co. AD Howard was not interested. (West girls also played that night) Many fans chose not to make the trip to Frenchburg for fear of not getting in after driving for close to 2 hours. Sometimes the small school tournament has fallen prey to small thinking as well. Schools voted to put boys/girls games together to help crowds but separating the championship games would have been smart and generated more $$ for the schools. Adding an extra hour between games to empty the gym would have been nice. Fairviews gym seats nowhere near 1,100 people. The final tally will probably show around 600-700 paying in attendance for the championship game. Maybe more with the early exits before the start of the boys game. Easy way to find out is for the schools to check the financial report and I would guess the gate to be between 3,000-3,500. It will be Raceland's turn to host next season so the problem is solved for 1 year. Plenty of room in the Palace! :thumb:
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Fairview 78 Elliott County 48
The Lions got took to the woodshed. Totally dominated start to finish. Looks like the narrow escape with Menifee was a wake-up for the 'View. Good luck Eagles. :dancingpa
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Russell 62 Scott 55
Didn't Russell actually scrimmage Scott County in the pre-season? :creepy:
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Ashland vs. Russell Predictions
Both Rose Hill and Fairview will probably send the district tournament to the highest bidder. (Boyd Co. has the best seating capacity) Fairview rarely, if ever hosted the 63rd boys district. They did host the girls. Back to the subject, give me the Tomcats by 7 in a mild upset. (based on previous predictions)
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Rowan County 74 Elliott County 58
This may be a payback for last season when Elliott dropped a 14 pt. loss on the eventual region champions. This is a shocker! Anyone have details on this game?
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Fairview 62 Ashland 53
Big win for Rex and the 'View, not a chance that AT41 gets a forehead decoration but the jesting has been good. Henna? Is that the stain made from vegetables that only lasts 30 days? Look for AT41 to invest shorterm. Good job eagles :dancingpa
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West Carter 54 East Carter 30
15 total fouls in THIS game?
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Russell vs Boyd County predicitons
Right you are, no one devil can guard him but a swarming D when he puts it on the floor could slow him down. If Boyd wins the secondary scorers have to step up. Owens will draw all kinds of attention. Look for the devils to use a zone defense :thumb:
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Raceland 87 Union County, TN 63
Does this mean that shooter will ink a ram on his forehead if the devils fall short? AT41 and shooter side by side at the parlor, what a sight