Who is on the "coaches advisory committee"?

 

Don't know who is on it this year. I'd assume that the head coach of the team you support knows who is on the committee. You could check with him.

I think those arguing for fewer teams in the playoffs really are just being selfish. They don't want to watch a lopsided football game. There isn't any other legit reason why you wouldn't argue in favor of the current "everyone has a chance" setup. I can't think of anywhere else on any level of sport that people argue fewer teams in the playoffs. In all the other sports, the argument is how do we get more teams into the playoffs.

Don't know who is on it this year. I'd assume that the head coach of the team you support knows who is on the committee. You could check with him.

 

I don't know who is on it either and I don't care who the KHSAA does or doesn't listen to, but if the individuals that make up the "coaches advisory committee" can't make an objective recommendation about what is and isn't best for high school sports, maybe the KHSAA would find more wisdom reading a message board. At least the pros and cons would be laid out and group think wouldn't be in play and there might be less "group think".

I think those arguing for fewer teams in the playoffs really are just being selfish. They don't want to watch a lopsided football game. There isn't any other legit reason why you wouldn't argue in favor of the current "everyone has a chance" setup. I can't think of anywhere else on any level of sport that people argue fewer teams in the playoffs. In all the other sports, the argument is how do we get more teams into the playoffs.

 

Most of those arguments come from a selfish point of view. Anything above high school and becomes about money. You ask they pros, major college players if they want to play one more game. I don't think it is fair to let most teams in and not others. Why does a district that has 4 teams automatically get in but a district with 5 or 6, some stays home (except Simon Kenton and I doubt they were happy to play one more game.) Let everyone in and shorten the season by a game or make people qualify to get in. No other sports in KY have 6 classes either.

It feels like the current setup in terms of classes, districts/regions/playoffs is about as wrong as wrong gets.

 

Examples:

1. 192 teams are in playoffs. 30 are not.

2. Some classes have guaranteed playoff participates by all teams and districts. Some districts in the 'in-between classes' have 6 teams and thus keep 2 out of 6 teams out of playoffs. Why are their 6 team districts at all? Spread them out to 5 teams max.

3. Travel is very bad for the first round with spread out districts and even further spread out 'Regions'.

4. District and 'Region' titles mean nothing. The tournament is simply 5 weeks of a state focused tournament.

 

There are lot of very valid comments and suggestions here.

 

It seems the following should looked at:

1. Either get all the teams into the playoffs or limit participation to around 1/2 of the teams. Having 30 teams sit out is silly. Especially when 6-4 teams do not make it in and 0-10 teams do.

2. Districts should be 5 teams maximum.

3. Come with a set-up that creates meaningful 2nd-tier or 3rd-tier championships. It should not be all about state for schools that are building up or where there are perennial strong teams. (6A, etc.).

 

Thats it on this subject. Those in charge have tough job without a doubt.

I was in attendance at one of the 40 point plus blowout games.

 

After the game, a number of parents of the losing team told me things such as, "My son was just hoping not to get hurt", "Our kids knew they had no shot to win this game and really did not want to play it".

 

For roughly 50% of these first round games, the differences in the physical strength, roster depth, agressiveness of players, etc.,. between the #1 seed and the #4 seed is so great, that making these teams play one another is clearly not thinking in the best interest of the student players.

 

And, this past week the weather was fairly mild in Kentucky. Can you imagine the joy the players and coaches of the 40 point blow out losing teams would have had preparing for theses games in 40 degrees and rain???

 

Schools have all year to play their schedules and earn their way into the playoffs.

 

If every district was fair and even then your argument would make a good point. However some districts have top programs in it, that the other teams would NEVER see the playoffs if say we had only two teams make it per district. A team might be better than 3/4ths of the state but just happen to have two other great teams in their district. Is it fair for them not to make it, while a team from a weak district who is not as good makes it? Is that fair to the student athlete. Yes there are some which just stink for kids, however there are some that makes it completely worth it and that is what counts.

 

Having four teams in the district make it is not the problem. Having 6 classes is the problem. If they went back to 4 or at least five classes. Then you would see those really weak teams who might have not won a game or very few games be eliminated. Because most likely those are the teams who wouldn't want to make those trips just to lose. We still may have a few blowouts losses. However most likely those teams who got blown out still would have been happy to be there.

Why would anyone want less football played? So there are some blowouts......I'd love to have gotten to play just one more high school football game when I was a senior but the format was different then. Ask the players who were "blown out" if they think it was worth it to play what for many of them will be their last competetive game ever.

In the State of Georgia, week 10 is really a playoff/play-in between a few districts that have so many teams, that they can't play each other during the regular season. We should consider it here as well. Every team schedules a 9 game season, let the 1st round games take place week 10;1 vs 4, 2 vs 3, teams that don't make the top 4 gets paired up with similiar team, or finishes their season with 9 games if they choose. Week 11 would be the official start of the playoffs, then everyone can stop belly-aching about travel and blow out games...

Just looking at the attendance thread, it sure seems many fans/parents do not want the extra game. Also, looks like many players do not either as they are showing up in some cases with less than 25% on their roster that started the year.

And I would argue #4 seeds didn't get it done during the season and have no business in the playoffs.

 

I agree....no disrespect to Boyd county and I know Highlands is Highlands but they could have scored 150 points and could have held Boyd to -50 yards if they wanted to.

Of the 96 high school football playoff games in Kentucky last week, 51 of them were decided by 28 or more points, but it's possible the Kentucky High School Athletic Association may be willing to change the current format within the next few years to avoid such blowouts.

 

According to several area athletic directors at schools that have football, the KHSAA sent a survey to them and their coaches asking whether they like the current format in which almost every team qualifies for the playoffs or if they would like to see changes.

 

Under the current format four teams from each of eight districts in each of the six classes qualify for the playoffs. That means all 32 Class A teams and all 32 Class 6A teams qualify, while all but 30 teams out of 128 in the middle four classes qualify.

 

Newport Central Catholic athletic director Rob Detzel said six questions were on the survey.

 

Among the questions asked were whether to stick with the current four-team-per-district format or to cut down to two teams per district and eliminate a round of the playoffs.

 

He said another question asked about whether teams that didn't qualify for the playoffs would want to schedule an 11th game at the end of the regular season against other non-playoff teams.

 

Detzel was among several area athletic directors who said they also lost money on their first-round games because of significant travel costs for their opponents and lack of fans their opponents brought to those games.

 

KHSAA officials did not respond to

 

e-mail questions about the survey.

 

Even if the KHSAA decides to make a change, chances won't go into effect until after 2014 at the earliest - when the current alignment structure expires. This was on nky.com this morning.

^^^^^ The above, was written by Richard Skinner of the NKy.com

 

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The KHSAA was concerned enough about last week's results to send out a form to coaches inviting comments. That is the good news. The bad news is that the newspaper account stated words to the effect that it would be quite a while before there was a decision acting on the results. One of the things cited was the cost factor. Putting on games results in expenditures which are apparently not being absorbed by fannies in the seat in every instance. If you were a fan of Paris HS, would you have traveled to Beechwood on Friday? Also, not every home team favorite enjoys the fan support of a CCH, yet the CCH crowd was rather poor and the Rowan crowd was a no show.

My guess is that many who support the current format do so, but do not go to a game on Friday night.

I have been a Beechwood fan since longer than I care to admit, but I did not go Friday night and the three friends I attend a game with each week did not attend a game that night either. We were, however, at the CCH game on Friday supporting Northern Kentucky football.

I bring up the money issue because no one else commented on it.

We will be at the JC-Highlands game on Friday.

The KHSAA could spend some time and research other states and try to get some ideas that works for them and in plant those ideas that do work in Kentucky. Its all about the kids!

The KHSAA was concerned enough about last week's results to send out a form to coaches inviting comments. That is the good news. The bad news is that the newspaper account stated words to the effect that it would be quite a while before there was a decision acting on the results. One of the things cited was the cost factor. Putting on games results in expenditures which are apparently not being absorbed by fannies in the seat in every instance. If you were a fan of Paris HS, would you have traveled to Beechwood on Friday? Also, not every home team favorite enjoys the fan support of a CCH, yet the CCH crowd was rather poor and the Rowan crowd was a no show.

My guess is that many who support the current format do so, but do not go to a game on Friday night.

I have been a Beechwood fan since longer than I care to admit, but I did not go Friday night and the three friends I attend a game with each week did not attend a game that night either. We were, however, at the CCH game on Friday supporting Northern Kentucky football.

I bring up the money issue because no one else commented on it.

We will be at the JC-Highlands game on Friday.

 

BTW, the CovCath game was on Saturday afternoon and IMHO I thought the Rowan County Crowd was rather large and in fact much larger than two of the local teams we played where their fans failed came to a regular season game just down the road in large numbers like Holmes and Conner.

 

While I can agree the CovCath crowd wasn't huge, it wasn't poor either as seen on the local news stations at some schools, where it looked like no one showed up at some games!