I'll take a shot at it. Before I start I'll admit that I look at it through green and white glasses, not green and yellow glasses.

 

First, Coach Beatty was brought in from Kansas City to be the Trinity coach. There has been an undercurrent from many on the X side that bringing in an "outsider" was somehow wrong. Coach Beatty won right from start. That created some resentment. Second, in 2005, 2007 and 2008, I think that Coach Glaser honestly felt that he had the better team only to see Trinity take the title. Coach Glaser was never shy about letting people know that he thought the better team lost those games. When X had a regular season sweep, Coach Glaser saw fit to rub it in with a broom. That created a lot of resentment on the Trinity side. He also saw fit to downplay the rain shortened Trinity win in 2006 as somehow no legitimate (see the umbrella). In 2009 when X had the better team, Coach Glaser chose to run a fake field goal for a touchdown late in a game where they had a big lead. Then he chose to rub it in by tipping his hat to the Trinity side after the touchdown. That has not been forgotten. Finally, after the success Trinity has had over the past few years, Trinity is attracting a much larger share of the talent. That is causing a lot of resentment from the X side. There is some bad blood. That said, X is a fine school. They will be back. I have only seen them play once, but I saw a team that will fight to the end. I expect a Trinity win, but I expect a tight game. My guess is that there is a twenty percent chance of an X win. A sixty percent chance of a Trinity win in a close game and a twenty percent chance of a big Trinity win.

 

I may not have been paying attention back then but I have never heard the story (or anyone from X say that) about X being mad that T got someone from out of town?

All in all this seems to be a pretty accurate post. I think regardless of any actions, words, etc. these two coaches would not like each other. They are just way to different type of people.

They are indeed, very different.

I'll take a shot at it. Before I start I'll admit that I look at it through green and white glasses, not green and yellow glasses.

 

First, Coach Beatty was brought in from Kansas City to be the Trinity coach. There has been an undercurrent from many on the X side that bringing in an "outsider" was somehow wrong. Coach Beatty won right from start. That created some resentment. Second, in 2005, 2007 and 2008, I think that Coach Glaser honestly felt that he had the better team only to see Trinity take the title. Coach Glaser was never shy about letting people know that he thought the better team lost those games. When X had a regular season sweep, Coach Glaser saw fit to rub it in with a broom. That created a lot of resentment on the Trinity side. He also saw fit to downplay the rain shortened Trinity win in 2006 as somehow no legitimate (see the umbrella). In 2009 when X had the better team, Coach Glaser chose to run a fake field goal for a touchdown late in a game where they had a big lead. Then he chose to rub it in by tipping his hat to the Trinity side after the touchdown. That has not been forgotten. Finally, after the success Trinity has had over the past few years, Trinity is attracting a much larger share of the talent. That is causing a lot of resentment from the X side. There is some bad blood. That said, X is a fine school. They will be back. I have only seen them play once, but I saw a team that will fight to the end. I expect a Trinity win, but I expect a tight game. My guess is that there is a twenty percent chance of an X win. A sixty percent chance of a Trinity win in a close game and a twenty percent chance of a big Trinity win.

 

Funny how no mention of Beatty when trading films years ago did not give X the wide angle views which showed the pass routes being run. They only gave the close up film showing line blocking schemes. Heard that this was the case for several T opponents. They openly traded their films only to get useless film from T.

Funny how no mention of Beatty when trading films years ago did not give X the wide angle views which showed the pass routes being run. They only gave the close up film showing line blocking schemes. Heard that this was the case for several T opponents. They openly traded their films only to get useless film from T.

Make believe story.....we always trade sideline shot, and endzone shot.....

Trinity Alum... an excellent, accurate post. I have seen St. X play Riverdale and I have seen Trinity play Highlands, MBA and Cathedral. Perhaps my glasses are shaded green & white but I see Riverdale as = to MBA, probably not as good as Cathedral. St. X can win this game but it will take a combination of multiple Trinity turnovers, a St. X defensive or special teams TD, 2 to 1 time of possession ratio, effective Tiger passing attack [i.e. 17-22-225] , a creative Tiger blitzing package and not allowing any T kick returner to touch the ball. St. X does have a good d-line that may cause some havoc for the Rocks. That will be a great battle in the trenches. Honestly though , I do not see any advantage St. X holds... but would like to hear what the Tiger nation has to comment on that (team advantages) To use the T Alum's percentage breakdown I'll go with:

X big win - 2%; X win - 10%; T win - 90%; T big win (running clock) - 33%. Finally, we hear a lot of who is injured for St. X. Well, T has had players out too, so it's not like Rocks never miss games. I hope ALL starters are at 100% and stay safe/injury free for the game and balance of the season.

Funny how no mention of Beatty when trading films years ago did not give X the wide angle views which showed the pass routes being run. They only gave the close up film showing line blocking schemes. Heard that this was the case for several T opponents. They openly traded their films only to get useless film from T.

 

1. He did preface by saying he sees things througha green tint.

2. Most coaches are fearful the opposition will get hold of tight shots allowing them to breakdown pass protections and blocking schemes, thus they trade the widest view possible.

 

Just sayin'!

I'll take a shot at it. Before I start I'll admit that I look at it through green and white glasses, not green and yellow glasses.

 

First, Coach Beatty was brought in from Kansas City to be the Trinity coach. There has been an undercurrent from many on the X side that bringing in an "outsider" was somehow wrong. Coach Beatty won right from start. That created some resentment. Second, in 2005, 2007 and 2008, I think that Coach Glaser honestly felt that he had the better team only to see Trinity take the title. Coach Glaser was never shy about letting people know that he thought the better team lost those games. When X had a regular season sweep, Coach Glaser saw fit to rub it in with a broom. That created a lot of resentment on the Trinity side. He also saw fit to downplay the rain shortened Trinity win in 2006 as somehow no legitimate (see the umbrella). In 2009 when X had the better team, Coach Glaser chose to run a fake field goal for a touchdown late in a game where they had a big lead. Then he chose to rub it in by tipping his hat to the Trinity side after the touchdown. That has not been forgotten. Finally, after the success Trinity has had over the past few years, Trinity is attracting a much larger share of the talent. That is causing a lot of resentment from the X side. There is some bad blood. That said, X is a fine school. They will be back. I have only seen them play once, but I saw a team that will fight to the end. I expect a Trinity win, but I expect a tight game. My guess is that there is a twenty percent chance of an X win. A sixty percent chance of a Trinity win in a close game and a twenty percent chance of a big Trinity win.

 

 

Nice synopsis. Accurate as well. There are more, but you hit the highlights quite nicely!!!

 

"GO ROCKS"

The Tigers have nothing to lose here and will play their hearts out against a Rocks squad that will be considerably favored. I am expecting a Trinity victory but St. X will fight like crazy to the end. They don't want a repeat of last year.

Trinity will likely win because they have better players and schemes. They have taken football and basketball to a different level. These aren't you 80's or 90's Shamrocks. Tigers will play hard but could get frustrated. Is Mattingly going to be back?

 

Go Tigers

This will not be close. Trinity will win 4-5 TD's. X is not very dimensional on offense and Trinity's defense is scary good.

 

Rocks 49

St. X 7

I'll take a shot at it. Before I start I'll admit that I look at it through green and white glasses, not green and yellow glasses.

 

First, Coach Beatty was brought in from Kansas City to be the Trinity coach. There has been an undercurrent from many on the X side that bringing in an "outsider" was somehow wrong. Coach Beatty won right from start. That created some resentment. Second, in 2005, 2007 and 2008, I think that Coach Glaser honestly felt that he had the better team only to see Trinity take the title. Coach Glaser was never shy about letting people know that he thought the better team lost those games. When X had a regular season sweep, Coach Glaser saw fit to rub it in with a broom. That created a lot of resentment on the Trinity side. He also saw fit to downplay the rain shortened Trinity win in 2006 as somehow no legitimate (see the umbrella). In 2009 when X had the better team, Coach Glaser chose to run a fake field goal for a touchdown late in a game where they had a big lead. Then he chose to rub it in by tipping his hat to the Trinity side after the touchdown. That has not been forgotten. Finally, after the success Trinity has had over the past few years, Trinity is attracting a much larger share of the talent. That is causing a lot of resentment from the X side. There is some bad blood. That said, X is a fine school. They will be back. I have only seen them play once, but I saw a team that will fight to the end. I expect a Trinity win, but I expect a tight game. My guess is that there is a twenty percent chance of an X win. A sixty percent chance of a Trinity win in a close game and a twenty percent chance of a big Trinity win.

 

This is very accurate as much as it hurts the X supporters to hear. I could add much more, but let's leave it with this.

 

on to the game... I think Trinity is much more talented at all facets of the game... especially coaching schemes. The term, “speed kills” will be the most telling story in this game.

 

I have seen it first hand for 5 games against very good competition and it is a glaring disparity. Teams just can't prepare for this in practice or watching film.

 

Now, with that said, X could possibly win this game. They have great high school kids and are very well coached. If the Rocks turn the ball over and make numerous mistakes on both sides of the ball and Mattingley rushes for 125 and passes for 200; and Walker rushes for 100+. I just don't see that happening against the Rocks defense... It's a great rival game! Rocks 31-14.

Does anybody know what coach Beatty's record is against X, both regular season and post.

10-7 -vs- St. Xavier. (Lou.)

I'll take a shot at it. Before I start I'll admit that I look at it through green and white glasses, not green and yellow glasses.

 

First, Coach Beatty was brought in from Kansas City to be the Trinity coach. There has been an undercurrent from many on the X side that bringing in an "outsider" was somehow wrong. Coach Beatty won right from start. That created some resentment. Second, in 2005, 2007 and 2008, I think that Coach Glaser honestly felt that he had the better team only to see Trinity take the title. Coach Glaser was never shy about letting people know that he thought the better team lost those games. When X had a regular season sweep, Coach Glaser saw fit to rub it in with a broom. That created a lot of resentment on the Trinity side. He also saw fit to downplay the rain shortened Trinity win in 2006 as somehow no legitimate (see the umbrella). In 2009 when X had the better team, Coach Glaser chose to run a fake field goal for a touchdown late in a game where they had a big lead. Then he chose to rub it in by tipping his hat to the Trinity side after the touchdown. That has not been forgotten. Finally, after the success Trinity has had over the past few years, Trinity is attracting a much larger share of the talent. That is causing a lot of resentment from the X side. There is some bad blood. That said, X is a fine school. They will be back. I have only seen them play once, but I saw a team that will fight to the end. I expect a Trinity win, but I expect a tight game. My guess is that there is a twenty percent chance of an X win. A sixty percent chance of a Trinity win in a close game and a twenty percent chance of a big Trinity win.

 

Kind of interesting to hear the green and white version of the "synopsis". I pretty much agree with the Trinity alum but wanted to clarify some points. The "resentment" toward Coach Beatty may be valid but not sure how much of it is that he is an outsider versus just kicking ST X's butt since he's been here. In fact, I think the backers of Green and Gold respect that Trinity went outside the family to get a great coach and are envious on some levels. But compare that with Trinity's prior coach who came from Indiana and the difference is Coach Beatty has probably the best coaching record in Kentucky history.

 

As to the share of the talent, no doubt that St X has 3 battles that they are fighting 1) the fight for the talent within the traditional feeder schools of the CSAA. Trinity made a major haul of the 2008 Toy Bowl champion St Patrick with only Karl Roessler going to St X off what some call one of the most dominant teams ever. 2) X has to get their share of the public school kids as Trinity has dominated with special athletes James Quick, Ryan White, and Jason Hatcher, and the Dawkins RB supplementing an already talent-laden team. Clearly, these are special kids with special talents. 3) While Trinity has enjoyed unparalleled success in football, St X has enjoyed a tremendous run in the other sports during the same time frame. I won't touch the subject of the value of a state championship in football versus another sport, what it has caused is tremendous competition within the walls of Tigerville for the athletes and their time. When X won their last football championship in football, they swept the fall sports in soccer, golf, and cross country, along with swimming and tennis and lacrosse and volleyball. Many of the 100 or so freshmen football players turn into college scholarship athletes in other sports. James Quick is a unique athlete because he plays 3 sports- but a Trinity starting linebacker who started on the baseball team as a sophomore quit baseball to focus on football. The opposite happened last year at St X as the starting QB in football quit football to focus on baseball. I would believe that would never happen at Trinity. Let me comment that I am not saying which way is "better", its just different.

 

As to the fake field goal, its about 100-0 Trinity since the fake, I hope you guys forget about that soon.....

Kind of interesting to hear the green and white version of the "synopsis". I pretty much agree with the Trinity alum but wanted to clarify some points. The "resentment" toward Coach Beatty may be valid but not sure how much of it is that he is an outsider versus just kicking ST X's butt since he's been here. In fact, I think the backers of Green and Gold respect that Trinity went outside the family to get a great coach and are envious on some levels. But compare that with Trinity's prior coach who came from Indiana and the difference is Coach Beatty has probably the best coaching record in Kentucky history.

 

As to the share of the talent, no doubt that St X has 3 battles that they are fighting 1) the fight for the talent within the traditional feeder schools of the CSAA. Trinity made a major haul of the 2008 Toy Bowl champion St Patrick with only Karl Roessler going to St X off what some call one of the most dominant teams ever. 2) X has to get their share of the public school kids as Trinity has dominated with special athletes James Quick, Ryan White, and Jason Hatcher, and the Dawkins RB supplementing an already talent-laden team. Clearly, these are special kids with special talents. 3) While Trinity has enjoyed unparalleled success in football, St X has enjoyed a tremendous run in the other sports during the same time frame. I won't touch the subject of the value of a state championship in football versus another sport, what it has caused is tremendous competition within the walls of Tigerville for the athletes and their time. When X won their last football championship in football, they swept the fall sports in soccer, golf, and cross country, along with swimming and tennis and lacrosse and volleyball. Many of the 100 or so freshmen football players turn into college scholarship athletes in other sports. James Quick is a unique athlete because he plays 3 sports- but a Trinity starting linebacker who started on the baseball team as a sophomore quit baseball to focus on football. The opposite happened last year at St X as the starting QB in football quit football to focus on baseball. I would believe that would never happen at Trinity. Let me comment that I am not saying which way is "better", its just different.

 

As to the fake field goal, its about 100-0 Trinity since the fake, I hope you guys forget about that soon.....

 

Some of this competition among other sports, if not most, is self-inflicted. I know for a fact that X football players are strongly discouraged from playing other sports and my sources are mostly related to basketball. Trinity has several kids every year that play both BBall and Fball and although the football caoches may not like it, they compromise. This is one reason that X has been so far behind T in bball over the past 5 years.

 

And I think Trinity 27-10! I will be surprised if this game is as lopsided as last year.

Some of this competition among other sports, if not most, is self-inflicted. I know for a fact that X football players are strongly discouraged from playing other sports and my sources are mostly related to basketball. Trinity has several kids every year that play both BBall and Fball and although the football caoches may not like it, they compromise. This is one reason that X has been so far behind T in bball over the past 5 years.

 

And I think Trinity 27-10! I will be surprised if this game is as lopsided as last year.

Louballfan, my son's experience at St.X was completely different. He played football and baseball for 2 years. He was never pressured by either coach to quit the other sport. Matt Spalding was a freshmen starter at linebacker and probably would have been a varsity starter had he chose to play football. Same with Loehnert. My son could have contributed signficantly to the football team but chose to focus on baseball his last two years. By the same token, a couple of starters on the freshmen basball team (Daylen Hall and Matt Wilson) elected to give up baseball and focus on football. From my perspective, St.X does not "pressure" kids to play or quit a particular sport.