So that's the answer? More kids, and you'll win more games? How does Highlands do it?

 

That's just it, that's why many of us on here feel like Highlands stability and continued success is more impressive than T's.

RockPride, even as a Trinity supporter, and understanding what you're saying, I'll agree this seems like a chest-thumping thread. Why bring this up when it's been debated ad nausem for years? We (you and I) know that we believe that it's more than simply numbers. But to be fair, we've been "in the program".I agree there's more than

numbers, but I really disagree that we should be starting the conversations. It's like asking a peer to do your evaluation. Personally, I'm of the opinion that Trinity's success speaks for itself, and those interested will take the time to examine the process for themselves. At this point, I quote FDR: we just need to "Walk softly and carry a big stick."

 

By the way, from the converstaion I heard happening behind me at the Trinity/MBA program, there are some within the Trinity program that aren't exactly in agreement with what you and I believe. It was a really disturbing conversation to overhear.

Rockmom--I believe it was Theodore Roosevelt, not Franklin.

The more I think about this whole thread, the more I start to agree with Clyde. This really is a Trinity / St. X horn tooting thread. If you eliminate T and X from the discussion and compare N. Ky. 6A against the rest of the state including Louisville, I think N. Ky. 6A would hold its own rather well. T and X are exceptions and have an advantage they have helped create with their own hard work - they are the destination for football players in greater Louisville, a population base of 750,000 plus.

 

That being said, N. Ky. 6A has underachieved. They need a great coach to get in one of the schools and create a higher standard that all the other 6A teams will have to pursue to keep up.

 

Remember the public school championship SK won a couple of years back?? :thumb: The host team provided them with a trophy and every thing. Which leads you to believe that NKY public 6A schools aren't the only ones that notice the disparity, sense it was a Louisville 6A school that dubbed the game the 6A public school championship.......

RockPride, even as a Trinity supporter, and understanding what you're saying, I'll agree this seems like a chest-thumping thread. Why bring this up when it's been debated ad nausem for years? We (you and I) know that we believe that it's more than simply numbers. But to be fair, we've been "in the program".I agree there's more than numbers, but I really disagree that we should be starting the conversations. It's like asking a peer to do your evaluation. Personally, I'm of the opinion that Trinity's success speaks for itself, and those interested will take the time to examine the process for themselves. At this point, I quote FDR: we just need to "Walk softly and carry a big stick."

 

By the way, from the converstaion I heard happening behind me at the Trinity/MBA program, there are some within the Trinity program that aren't exactly in agreement with what you and I believe. It was a really disturbing conversation to overhear.

 

Care to elaborate RM? I'm just curious as to what the other masses are saying?

Remember the public school championship SK won a couple of years back?? :thumb: The host team provided them with a trophy and every thing. Which leads you to believe that NKY public 6A schools aren't the only ones that notice the disparity, sense it was a Louisville 6A school that dubbed the game the 6A public school championship.......

 

Did that really happen?

NKY 6A talent is spread thin. A ton of talent but spread to thin, will never change unless a 6A catholic school comes around.

Did that really happen?

 

Yes back in 2008, SK played Male in the semi finals while X and T were playing the same week in the semi's. I guess Male thought they had the game in the bag, I dunno. SK drove to Louisville to play Male @ Male, won, and then everyone was kind of in disbelief/confused when the announcers said congrat's to the Simon Kenton Pioneers the 2008 6A public school state champions, and then proceeded to give them a trophy on the field.

For you to try and make it sound like Highlands doesn't get boys attending there for the soul purpose of playing football is kinda funny. It's not just Highlands, any top sports program will draw top athletes for sports. If they get a better education in the process that's just icing on the cake. I as well believe Beechwood would have a little something to say about Highlands being the obvious choice for a top notch non faith based education in NKY. And your comment about not settling and sacrifice, is a little degrading in my opinion. There are many families that cannot sacrifice enough to pay for tuition and transportation for their children to attend a school other than a public school. And not settling, my children all received good educations from public school. It is what you make of it, there are advanced and AP programs and classes available in public schools if you choose to guide your children into them as I feel you should. There are most of the time underlying reasons for the situation you spoke of, coming from Cincinnati to Ft. Thomas to receive a better education. Just as I know families from NKY that have sent their children to St. X in Cincinnati because of a better education. Like it of not, there are families that choose a school for their child or children, because of a sports program at that particular school . If they follow the KHSAA rules, more power to them.

No, parents do not send their children to a school just to play football -- at least, not the sane ones. It just doesn't happen. A good education is not, God forbid, the "icing on the cake." Football should fill that role for any student. In the Ft. Thomas schools, we're blessed with the fact that sports (specifically, football) and academics are a package deal. So you can never say a parent chose the school for sports only.

 

You may find making sacrifices and not settling to be degrading to you, but it's simply telling the truth. It takes community commitment and personal sacrifice to produce a top-notch educational system. You mention Beechwood: yes, they do it right also. Your children may have, in fact, received a quality education elsewhere; however, that is not the point. Kids who come to the Ft. Thomas schools, do so for the total package, not just one element.

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People from large schools always seem to discount numbers as an advantage. Take the 11 best football players from Louisville and play them against the 11 best football players from Fulton County and tell me how that turns out

 

The better coaching in Louisville would tip the scales in their favor.

Again, the thread title is "Why is NKY 6A so average?"

 

Maybe a poor analogy, but there are sports where the "high and low scores" (the outliers) are thrown out. From an elementary statistics standpoint; getting closer to using the median than the mean.

 

Throw the outliers out and NKY 6A football is little different than Jefferson County area 6A football. Average. Unless the ulterior motive here is to compare NKY football to one school rather than many.

The better coaching in Louisville would tip the scales in their favor.

 

:lol:

Is that the case? Last year Trinity and Central won titles....actually 3/4 for two teams from Louisville titles.

 

 

 

Since the 6-class system started:

 

2010 - Trinity, Central; NCC, Highlands. 2 apiece

2009 - X; Highlands. 1 apiece

2008 - Trinity, Central; Beechwood, Highlands. 2 apiece

2007 - Trinity, Central; Beechwood, Highlands. 2 apiece

 

6 class era - Jefferson County/Louisville 7; NKY 7.

Since the 6-class system started:

 

2010 - Trinity, Central; NCC, Highlands. 2 apiece

2009 - X; Highlands. 1 apiece

2008 - Trinity, Central; Beechwood, Highlands. 2 apiece

2007 - Trinity, Central; Beechwood, Highlands. 2 apiece

 

6 class era - Jefferson County/Louisville 7; NKY 7.

Stop bringing facts into this argument

Seems to me that NKy while never winning a large school state title, seems to win a lot of the other divisional state titles in football!

 

Seems year in and year out, NKy HS seem to win more KHSAA State Football Titles, than Jefferson County schools do!

 

Since the 6-class system started:

 

2010 - Trinity, Central; NCC, Highlands. 2 apiece

2009 - X; Highlands. 1 apiece

2008 - Trinity, Central; Beechwood, Highlands. 2 apiece

2007 - Trinity, Central; Beechwood, Highlands. 2 apiece

 

6 class era - Jefferson County/Louisville 7; NKY 7.

 

Stop bringing facts into this argument

I love facts.....they prove things.

No, you are very wrong in your twist on my statements. I said, I, me. I have never heard one person talk about sending their son, not daughter, but son, to Highlands for an education. I did not say it doesn't happen. I did give kudos to Highlands for being a great school. For you to try and make it sound like Highlands doesn't get boys attending there for the soul purpose of playing football is kinda funny. It's not just Highlands, any top sports program will draw top athletes for sports. If they get a better education in the process that's just icing on the cake. I as well believe Beechwood would have a little something to say about Highlands being the obvious choice for a top notch non faith based education in NKY. And your comment about not settling and sacrifice, is a little degrading in my opinion. There are many families that cannot sacrifice enough to pay for tuition and transportation for their children to attend a school other than a public school. And not settling, my children all received good educations from public school. It is what you make of it, there are advanced and AP programs and classes available in public schools if you choose to guide your children into them as I feel you should. There are most of the time underlying reasons for the situation you spoke of, coming from Cincinnati to Ft. Thomas to receive a better education. Just as I know families from NKY that have sent their children to St. X in Cincinnati because of a better education. Like it of not, there are families that choose a school for their child or children, because of a sports program at that particular school . If they follow the KHSAA rules, more power to them.

 

First, I didn't say HHS was the ONLY choice for a top notch education, but rather an obvious one. Beechwood, along with a few other public schools in NKY are great academically and in athletics, but does not offer many of the programs and classes that a larger school offers. Also, Beechwood does not offer near as many sports for girls. My point being, that many more parents pay the tuition to go to HHS for academics rather then for athletics. You just don't hear about the kids that don't play sports at HHS like you do football team members. By sacrifice i meant that people often sell nice, newer homes to move to an older, smaller home and voluntarily pay higher taxes for the "privelage" to do so. I have two close friends who just did it last month before school started to be able to send their kids to Ft. Thomas schools. Happens all the time. People move, or pay tuition all the time for their kids educations. I bet if you really asked your friend why they are sending their kid to HHS they would probably tell you for the all around experience HHS offers their son. IF they don't, well, they are not sound parents in my eyes.