Owen County loses Class "A" status

[True blue (and gold)]

This is from a report out of Johns Hopkins

 

The purpose of this report was to locate the dropout crisis- to determine its scale and scope by identifying the number of high schools with severe dropout problems, detailing the states, cities, and locales where they are concentrated, and establishing who attends them. For this analysis of high schools across the country, two cut-points were used to identify those that have high dropout and low graduation rates. The first cut point is high schools in which there are 50% or fewer seniors than freshmen four years earlier. These high schools are classified as those with the worst promoting power in the U.S. because in these schools students have less than a 50/50 chance of graduating on time, if at all. The second cut point used was high schools in which there are 60% or fewer seniors than freshmen. This second cut point was added because analysis of the data revealed a large number of high schools with promoting power between 50% and 60%. It is analytically useful to isolate the high schools with the worst promoting power but also identify all high schools in which graduation is likely not the norm. Identifying high schools with promoting power of 60% or less provides a good estimate of the number of high schools with severe dropout rates and thus can be used to locate the high schools which produce the majority of the nation's dropouts. Findings include in this study, but are not limited to the following: (1) Nearly half of our nation's African American students, nearly 40% of Latino students, and only 11% of white students attend high schools in which graduation is not the norm; (2) Between 1993 and 2002, the number of high schools with the lowest levels of success in promoting freshmen to senior status on time (a strong correlate of high dropout and low graduation rates) increased by 75%, compared with only an 8% increase in the total number of high schools; and (3) There are currently between 900 and 1,000 high schools in the country in which graduating st a 50/50 proposition. In 2,000 high schools, a typical freshman class shrinks by 40% or more by the time the students reach their senior year. This represents nearly one in five regular or vocational high schools in the U.S. that enroll 300 or more students.

 

This does not provide proof for your point. This just compares the number of students that start out as freshmen, say for the Class of 2007, verses the number of students that graduate for the same class. This does not mean that students drop out during their freshmen year. They may drop out sophomore or junior year (if they are 16), which actually hurts your argument. Additionally, this may mean that these students were retained in a grade and may eventually graduate, just not with their class.

[True blue (and gold)]

What's with the quote marks on your posts?

 

First quote - I don't like the phrase "drop out," but I couldn't come up with a better one quickly.

 

Second quote - I don't think that schools "benefit" from students dropping out, so that was using a word, but not agreeing with it in that context.

 

A question for you - are you in an education related profession?

[HDE]

This does not provide proof for your point. This just compares the number of students that start out as freshmen, say for the Class of 2007, verses the number of students that graduate for the same class. This does not mean that students drop out during their freshmen year. They may drop out sophomore or junior year (if they are 16), which actually hurts your argument. Additionally, this may mean that these students were retained in a grade and may eventually graduate, just not with their class.

 

 

All of them don't drop out as freshmen but quite a few do, which is one of the reasons for counting 9-12 numbers. As the report said, some schools lose half of their freshmen class before graduation. The freshman class is usually the largest and should be counted in any measure of high school enrollment, unless you're not interested in accuracy.

 

Students who drop out don't follow the standard progression as far as being 15 as freshmen, 16 as sophomores etc.. They are probably failing a grade, or two, somewhere along the way and are still 16 as freshmen.

 

I am not in the education field but I follow it closely in my job.

[Sports Fan for LIFE]

Has there been a drastic increase, in enrollment or where the numbers close to being with, to the 425 cap.[/QUCould the recruiting of players cause a dramatic increase?????

[Sports Fan for LIFE]

All of them don't drop out as freshmen but quite a few do, which is one of the reasons for counting 9-12 numbers. As the report said, some schools lose half of their freshmen class before graduation. The freshman class is usually the largest and should be counted in any measure of high school enrollment, unless you're not interested in accuracy.

 

Students who drop out don't follow the standard progression as far as being 15 as freshmen, 16 as sophomores etc.. They are probably failing a grade, or two, somewhere along the way and are still 16 as freshmen.

 

I am not in the education field but I follow it closely in my job.

 

What has happened to academics? If they're loosing kids that fast ---what is going on with graduation rates and assessment results???

[Lunatic1]

I heard that Owen was 4 students over the 425..that is a shame if it is true.

 

As far as the drop out rate issue, if they used 9-12 they would increase the number allowed in the all A or they would not have many schools that fit the criteria. I really do not think in the area or region that we are discussing that the drop out rate is that much of a difference to the number. They would most likely be in an alternative school prior to dropping out anyway and would not be in the general population of the school.