Why would the All "A" not use 9-12?

 

Since all high schools are at least 10-12, why not use that? I honestly do not see where this is a problem.

Maybe because 90 percent of the high schools in Kentucky are 9-12. Jefferson County high schools are 9-12. Why would the All "A" not use 9-12?

 

If you use 9-12 you would have to use the previous years 9-12 enrollment figures which could allow schools that are now too large to compete and could exclude schools that are now small enough from participating.

All high schools are at least 11-12 too, but the vast majority are 9-12 and that is the number that should be used. Schools with large dropout numbers after the ninth grade are rewarded under the All A's current system. If you're going for an accurate measurement, then measure the entire high school.

 

I'm still curious what area of the state isn't "set" for 10th graders.

If you use 9-12 you would have to use the previous years 9-12 enrollment figures which could allow schools that are now too large to compete and could exclude schools that are now small enough from participating.

 

Do you think the All "A" waits until the school year starts before deciding which schools can compete?

 

Enrollment numbers are changing every day. Using 10-12 isn't going to improve the accuracy. Schools turn in their numbers in September or October and the All "A" field is set for the next two years. The KHSAA set the football classes last fall for the next two years.

Do you think the All "A" waits until the school year starts before deciding which schools can compete?

 

Enrollment numbers are changing every day. Using 10-12 isn't going to improve the accuracy. Schools turn in their numbers in September or October and the All "A" field is set for the next two years. The KHSAA set the football classes last fall for the next two years.

 

We agree there is no perfect way. No matter if 9-12 or 10-12 is used the numbers are not going to be truly accurate for the teams actually competing that given year in the All-A.

Schools with large dropout numbers after the ninth grade are rewarded under the All A's current system.

 

Which schools are these?

Which schools are these?

 

 

The ones that have a lot of dropouts.

Yeah ... those all A schools are just notorious for getting kids to quit school so they can get in the all A tournament.

 

I think it is that 10,11 and 12 are probably playing varsity sports and so that is why those grades are picked.

The ones that have a lot of dropouts.

 

Perhaps my question was not as clear as it should have been...what are the names of these schools that "benefit" from the amount of drop outs they have?

For those on here that are Gallatin fans, what is the issue? Is it more of a case of simply missing the fun? Or do you think its not fair?

 

I don't get the "blow to the community" comment.

The quote was from the Owen Girls Coach. Read post 1. As a Gallatin fan I will miss Owen not being there.

Perhaps my question was not as clear as it should have been...what are the names of these schools that "benefit" from the amount of drop outs they have?

 

 

Quite a few schools, especially in eastern Kentucky, have traditionally had high dropout rates, which means some freshmen never become sophomores. I'm guessing the Kentucky Department of Education would have a list of the districts with the highest dropout rates if you want to look.

I am pretty sure that you cannot "drop out" before the age of 16. At our school (I am a teacher), we don't have any drop outs before that age. Percentage wise, then, we are hurt most by including the upper grades, not the 9th grade.

I've seen classes that start with 350 freshmen and end with 190 seniors. The freshman classes are the largest in eastern Kentucky.

 

If you want an accurate picture of a high school's enrollment, you should measure the entire high school. The KHSAA figured that out almost 20 years ago. The All "A" Classic should do the same.

This is from a report out of Johns Hopkins

 

The purpose of this report was to locate the dropout crisis- to determine its scale and scope by identifying the number of high schools with severe dropout problems, detailing the states, cities, and locales where they are concentrated, and establishing who attends them. For this analysis of high schools across the country, two cut-points were used to identify those that have high dropout and low graduation rates. The first cut point is high schools in which there are 50% or fewer seniors than freshmen four years earlier. These high schools are classified as those with the worst promoting power in the U.S. because in these schools students have less than a 50/50 chance of graduating on time, if at all. The second cut point used was high schools in which there are 60% or fewer seniors than freshmen. This second cut point was added because analysis of the data revealed a large number of high schools with promoting power between 50% and 60%. It is analytically useful to isolate the high schools with the worst promoting power but also identify all high schools in which graduation is likely not the norm. Identifying high schools with promoting power of 60% or less provides a good estimate of the number of high schools with severe dropout rates and thus can be used to locate the high schools which produce the majority of the nation's dropouts. Findings include in this study, but are not limited to the following: (1) Nearly half of our nation's African American students, nearly 40% of Latino students, and only 11% of white students attend high schools in which graduation is not the norm; (2) Between 1993 and 2002, the number of high schools with the lowest levels of success in promoting freshmen to senior status on time (a strong correlate of high dropout and low graduation rates) increased by 75%, compared with only an 8% increase in the total number of high schools; and (3) There are currently between 900 and 1,000 high schools in the country in which graduating st a 50/50 proposition. In 2,000 high schools, a typical freshman class shrinks by 40% or more by the time the students reach their senior year. This represents nearly one in five regular or vocational high schools in the U.S. that enroll 300 or more students.

I am pretty sure that you cannot "drop out" before the age of 16. At our school (I am a teacher), we don't have any drop outs before that age. Percentage wise, then, we are hurt most by including the upper grades, not the 9th grade.

 

Perhaps my question was not as clear as it should have been...what are the names of these schools that "benefit" from the amount of drop outs they have?.

 

 

What's with the quote marks on your posts?