Asking b/c I don't know but when would Spring practice typically occur?  Not having a coach today/this week what are the players missing other than that coach overseeing strength/conditioning workouts.  Maybe allowing the players to study playbook and understanding coaching philosophy on what the future season looks like.  I know Wes initially stated he wanted a coach by Jan 1....but with James backing out when does it become a decision where picking someone/anyone is better than waiting for the right one.  Can anyone honestly put a good date out there where that statement holds true?  Is it Feb 1st?  Mar 1st?  

10 hours ago, Jack of all Trades said:

You mean somebody like Dale Mueller?

 

52 minutes ago, 9068 said:

Exactly what I told my wife.

You guys. ?

11 hours ago, John Anthony said:

I think a ton more would happen.  Jobs always open, they could look further into Ohio. Caldwell, calling all the people he told no before hiring James isn’t working out at the moment.

Coming from OH might be a hard sell. You typically make more money teaching in OH. I mean in a number of cases significantly more money. If you’ve been teaching/coaching in OH up to a point then you get into retirement and how that would be affected. 

2 hours ago, Male Dueller said:

 

You guys. ?

I will personally stock the pond next to the stadium, what is your fish of choice?

1 hour ago, barrel said:

Coming from OH might be a hard sell. You typically make more money teaching in OH. I mean in a number of cases significantly more money. If you’ve been teaching/coaching in OH up to a point then you get into retirement and how that would be affected. 

That’s true I’m hoping one of the flashy young assistants over here would be interested and see the long term value in it.

5 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

That’s true I’m hoping one of the flashy young assistants over here would be interested and see the long term value in it.

That I could possibly see. Flashy young assistant means little to no HC experience which might prevent him from getting the job in the first place. 

2 hours ago, barrel said:

That I could possibly see. Flashy young assistant means little to no HC experience which might prevent him from getting the job in the first place. 

Well if they can’t aim high, what’s next?  Try to lure Bryson Warner away from Boone by showing him property values in Ft. Thomas?

55 minutes ago, John Anthony said:

Well if they can’t aim high, what’s next?  Try to lure Bryson Warner away from Boone by showing him property values in Ft. Thomas?

I don’t think you have to aim low. You might have to think outside the box or some might have to look past some blinders. I think you have a great idea of finding a coordinator. The question is who has the connections to locate one? Another option is finding someone that has been able to win due to limited talent/resources. I think both ideas could work but I think the second might be a tougher sell. 
 

Funny you mentioned Coach Warner. I had a discussion with someone about the job. It feels like pretty much no one in NKY wants to go near it. I’ve got guesses why. The person brought up Warner and I thought there is no way that would work for a number of reasons. I know you weren’t serious about him. It just reminded me of the conversation. 

Most people think the progression is OC or DC to head coach. The best progression is from freshman/JV coach to head coach. You already know how to run your own program. It depends on the setup, but at Paris, Mason County, & Mercer County, our freshman coach ran the program. Same offensive & defensive system, but handled logistics, personnel, practice schedules, accountability, communicating with parents, etc. 

In the 21st century, the freshman coach is bigger than the OC or DC. If you don't have a good one, the OC and DC won't have players to coach. Your frosh coach these days needs to be a rock star.... like Larry Harris (Mason County) or William Harris (Mercer County)! 

1 hour ago, ChiefSmoke said:

Most people think the progression is OC or DC to head coach. The best progression is from freshman/JV coach to head coach. You already know how to run your own program. It depends on the setup, but at Paris, Mason County, & Mercer County, our freshman coach ran the program. Same offensive & defensive system, but handled logistics, personnel, practice schedules, accountability, communicating with parents, etc. 

In the 21st century, the freshman coach is bigger than the OC or DC. If you don't have a good one, the OC and DC won't have players to coach. Your frosh coach these days needs to be a rock star.... like Larry Harris (Mason County) or William Harris (Mercer County)! 

My understanding is that the HHS fresh coach on committee and I am certain that the position will not be an inside hire.  

2 hours ago, Bird Bath said:

My understanding is that the HHS fresh coach on committee and I am certain that the position will not be an inside hire.  

My current AD, Donald Smith, set the world on fire when he coached the Dunbar freshman team. Lafayette went after him and he became their head coach. A few years later, he was the head coach at KY State University. There may be a great coach close by. It takes work to find them when they are coaching freshman football.

I found out later, I was being evaluated as a head coach candidate when I coached my freshmen team. 

I like to see Brady Dowling , the Freshman head coach apply. Hes done very well. 

4 minutes ago, Bill W. said:

I like to see Brady Dowling , the Freshman head coach apply. Hes done very well. 

He has but let’s put on the brakes.  Not ready for varsity plus he missed on a few position players that if not had relationships with other coaches would have left program.  So IMO that would be no.

4 hours ago, ChiefSmoke said:

Most people think the progression is OC or DC to head coach. The best progression is from freshman/JV coach to head coach. You already know how to run your own program. It depends on the setup, but at Paris, Mason County, & Mercer County, our freshman coach ran the program. Same offensive & defensive system, but handled logistics, personnel, practice schedules, accountability, communicating with parents, etc. 

In the 21st century, the freshman coach is bigger than the OC or DC. If you don't have a good one, the OC and DC won't have players to coach. Your frosh coach these days needs to be a rock star.... like Larry Harris (Mason County) or William Harris (Mercer County)! 

Excellent post. Like I've said, sometimes the answer is right in front of you.

5 hours ago, ChiefSmoke said:

Most people think the progression is OC or DC to head coach. The best progression is from freshman/JV coach to head coach. You already know how to run your own program. It depends on the setup, but at Paris, Mason County, & Mercer County, our freshman coach ran the program. Same offensive & defensive system, but handled logistics, personnel, practice schedules, accountability, communicating with parents, etc. 

In the 21st century, the freshman coach is bigger than the OC or DC. If you don't have a good one, the OC and DC won't have players to coach. Your frosh coach these days needs to be a rock star.... like Larry Harris (Mason County) or William Harris (Mercer County)! 

Back in the 80s when I coached at Beechwood that is exactly how the program was run.  The freshman football team was totally independent in every way with its own head coach and coordinators on each side of the ball. I definitely agree freshman football (and JV if you have the numbers) are great places to build bench strength in a football program.

And if you want to take it next level, I remember being at a Moeller (OH) football practice once observing how the "big boys" do things. It was the playoffs and the 1st and 2nd team offense was on one field going against the 3rd team defense and the 1st and 2nd team defense was on another field going against the 3rd team offense.  All this time the JV offense (skilled players) were inside studying film of the playoff opponent and came out half way through practice and ran all the upcoming opponent's pass plays against the 1st team defense.