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Herd Immunity and Shelter-in-place policies

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Hardware stores should be closed, IMO.

 

Wal-Mart is essential.

 

I used to think that, until our furnace went out and a trip to the hardware store was needed. Also, pipes break and God knows toilets clog and break.

 

Not saying that 90% of the people there aren’t there for emergencies. Most are catching up on home projects, and taking care of lawns. But even then, as long as we are social distancing, it is a good time to keep busy with home projects.

 

The mister’s cell phone broke. The store was open but they insisted anyone and everyone in the store wear a mask. I think all stores should do that.

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They clearly don't care.

 

Sounds like Kentucky has some folks who don’t care tonight.

Several protests around the nation today. Saw pictures of the one in Ohio. Twitter was comparing them to the zombies in Shaun of the Dead.

“Job losses cause extreme suffering. Every 1 percent hike in the unemployment rate will likely produce a 3.3 percent increase in drug-overdose deaths and a 0.99 percent increase in suicides, according to data from the National Bureau of Economic Research and the medical journal Lancet.”

 

What a tough situation, go out and people can get sick, stay home and people get sick.

“Job losses cause extreme suffering. Every 1 percent hike in the unemployment rate will likely produce a 3.3 percent increase in drug-overdose deaths and a 0.99 percent increase in suicides, according to data from the National Bureau of Economic Research and the medical journal Lancet.”

 

What a tough situation, go out and people can get sick, stay home and people get sick.

 

People didn’t care about that a month ago...

People didn’t care about that a month ago...

 

How do you know that? Seems bold to publicly speak for everyone, just because someone shows you the counter argument to staying home.

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“Job losses cause extreme suffering. Every 1 percent hike in the unemployment rate will likely produce a 3.3 percent increase in drug-overdose deaths and a 0.99 percent increase in suicides, according to data from the National Bureau of Economic Research and the medical journal Lancet.”

 

What a tough situation, go out and people can get sick, stay home and people get sick.

 

Just horrible.

 

I saw a historical based model that projects 77,000 Americans are likely to die from suicide and drug overdoses as a result of layoffs due to shutdown.

How do you know that? Seems bold to publicly speak for everyone, just because someone shows you the counter argument to staying home.

 

Using BGP as a small sample size, how often do we have threads concerned about drug overdoses or suicide?

Just horrible.

 

I saw a historical based model that projects 77,000 Americans are likely to die from suicide and drug overdoses as a result of layoffs due to shutdown.

 

I hope this is OK, But in the Big Short Brad Pitt's character explains what is going to happen when the economy crashes to his celebrating proteges. It captures the issue. Half are heart attacks, a quarter are suicides.

 

Big short 1 perc.jpg

 

Yale 2002 study that is sometimes credited with leading the movie quote:

 

Rising unemployment causes higher death rates, Yale researcher shows | YaleNews

Using BGP as a small sample size, how often do we have threads concerned about drug overdoses or suicide?

 

Because we don’t have threads means it doesn’t happen? It’s also a nationwide stat. Again, how do you know that nobody cares? Did we have threads on coronavirus awareness before 2020?

Because we don’t have threads means it doesn’t happen? It’s also a nationwide stat. Again, how do you know that nobody cares?

 

You’re right. They care. They just never talk about it, anywhere in public.

You’re right. They care. They just never talk about it, anywhere in public.

 

It’s not exactly public, it’s a website full of pseudonyms. All I did was show the contrarian view of statistics indicating cause-effect of staying home for too long/shutting down the economy. It’s simply not fair, especially, without evidence to say nobody cared about mental health/substance abuse/suicide rates before this. I believe a lot of people care and we need to look at the problem 360 degrees, flattening the curve and opening the economy.

It’s not exactly public, it’s a website full of pseudonyms. All I did was show the contrarian view of statistics indicating cause-effect of staying home for too long/shutting down the economy. It’s simply not fair, especially, without evidence to say nobody cared about mental health/substance abuse/suicide rates before this. I believe a lot of people care and we need to look at the problem 360 degrees, flattening the curve and opening the economy.

 

People “care” now because they are being inconvenienced. It’s pretty clear from my view. Maybe your experiences are different. We don’t have to agree.

Hardware stores should be closed, IMO.

 

Wal-Mart is essential.

 

I work in insurance. People need things sold at places like Lowes or Home Depot. Storm season is just starting. Tree limbs break windows put holes in roofs etc. Pipes break and flood houses, fires occur. You can't just sit around until this is over with a hole in your roof and water running in everytime it rains until the whole house is covered in mold.

 

As much as I would like to stay home during this time, I still have customers that need to be taken care of in their time of need when something happens to their home. I'm currently dealing with a fire that occurred a couple weeks ago. This family will be out of their home for quite a while as it is, you can't expect them to stay in temporary housing several months before they are even allowed to begin repairing their home.

Hardware stores should be closed, IMO.

 

Wal-Mart is essential.

Are plumbers and electricians making house calls if we have an emergency? Do I have money for their fees? (NO :lol2:)

I am quarantined with a guy who can fix almost anything, with the right parts from ACE hardware.

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