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Herd Immunity and Shelter-in-place policies

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Yesterday I read a story where people in South Korea recovered and now have a reactivated form of the CV.

 

How will that work in the herd immunity plan?

 

Both South Korea and Japan have reported re-infections.

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Both South Korea and Japan have reported re-infections.

 

Oh, so you mean you're not immune if you get it?

 

There goes that idea.

World Health Organization officials said Monday not all people who recover from the coronavirus have the antibodies to fight a second infection, raising concern that patients may not develop immunity after surviving Covid-19.

“With regards to recovery and then reinfection, I believe we do not have the answers to that. That is an unknown,” Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of WHO’s emergencies program, said at a press conference at the organization’s Geneva headquarters on Monday.

A preliminary study of patients in Shanghai found that some patients had “no detectable antibody response” while others had a very high response, said Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO’s lead scientist on Covid-19. Whether the patients who had a strong antibody response were immune to a second infection is “a separate question,” she added.

 

WHO officials say it'''s unclear whether recovered coronavirus patients are immune to second infection

Oh, so you mean you're not immune if you get it?

 

There goes that idea.

 

Yeah I think your second post really hammers home what we're looking at. We're so early in the study of this virus that we really don't know what the general population's antibody resistance to this is going to be on the whole. Lots of questions still to answer.

Both South Korea and Japan have reported re-infections.

 

Inconclusive data, could have been false original test, or false retest. More data is needed.

Oh, so you mean you're not immune if you get it?

 

There goes that idea.

 

So why is Wuhan opening back up?

May 1. After that, wheels of society start of fall off.

 

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

So why is Wuhan opening back up?

 

I couldn't tell you. I don't live there.

 

The first case there is now traced back as far as November, meaning they are now at five months since the first case.

 

How many months has it been here?

I couldn't tell you. I don't live there.

 

The first case there is now traced back as far as November, meaning they are now at five months since the first case.

 

How many months has it been here?

 

The thing is as things gradually open you still have the freedom to hunker down for as long as you want. Let’s keep things in perspective.

So why is Wuhan opening back up?

 

Because a dictatorial government said so. Besides, it was never that bad there to begin with, right?

 

How many months has it been here?

 

In Kentucky, specifically, I’d say since December IMO. Which would explain our lower numbers on this end of the state. We had so many people in December/January with the flu, that were testing negative, that schools were closing. I have very little doubt this didn’t run through my house 2 weeks before it became big news. I spent 2 hours with a coworker the first day my symptoms were present (before they made a big deal about it in the US), and Less than 2 weeks later, his mother was hospitalized with it. It could all be coincidental but, my symptoms lined up with the rona and I tested negative for the flu.

World Health Organization officials said Monday not all people who recover from the coronavirus have the antibodies to fight a second infection, raising concern that patients may not develop immunity after surviving Covid-19.

“With regards to recovery and then reinfection, I believe we do not have the answers to that. That is an unknown,” Dr. Mike Ryan, executive director of WHO’s emergencies program, said at a press conference at the organization’s Geneva headquarters on Monday.

A preliminary study of patients in Shanghai found that some patients had “no detectable antibody response” while others had a very high response, said Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, WHO’s lead scientist on Covid-19. Whether the patients who had a strong antibody response were immune to a second infection is “a separate question,” she added.

 

WHO officials say it'''s unclear whether recovered coronavirus patients are immune to second infection

 

The reality is that if people who have had it aren't immune, then we are really staring at a no-win situation. If a vaccine is roughly 18 months out - assuming it ever comes - I think we can all agree that the world is not going to be able to wait 18 months to come out from quarantine. That's not an argument for herd immunity (which obviously wouldn't work if re-infection can occur), but rather a reality that the world can't isolate for 18 months.

 

I'm sure I've probably missed it in these threads, but do they have any estimates on how long till we at least have treatments?

Stanford’s new study is saying less than 5% of the people in California have been infected and not even close to herd immunity.

Because a dictatorial government said so. Besides, it was never that bad there to begin with, right?

 

Now do Italy and Spain, who are slowly opening up. Like I said, nobody is forcing anyone to leave their house if their afraid, or feel it’s unsafe due to their risk factors.

In Kentucky, specifically, I’d say since December IMO. Which would explain our lower numbers on this end of the state. We had so many people in December/January with the flu, that were testing negative, that schools were closing. I have very little doubt this didn’t run through my house 2 weeks before it became big news. I spent 2 hours with a coworker the first day my symptoms were present (before they made a big deal about it in the US), and Less than 2 weeks later, his mother was hospitalized with it. It could all be coincidental but, my symptoms lined up with the rona and I tested negative for the flu.

 

Sorry. Not buying it. If it was in Kentucky in December, why weren't there Wuhan like numbers in February? There would have been an increase in people in ICU, on ventilators and deaths by early February. Especially if you consider all the people who would have been exposed over Christmas and New Years.

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