June 15, 20179 yr Matt Jones said today on KSR that Pitino is the only coach in the nation who wouldn't get fired over this. He says UK and Duke would fire Cal and K. I don't think they would but Matt Jones said that the faculty at Duke would revolt if this happens there and that K wouldn't survive. Duke has always given off the image that K is bigger than Duke so I don't know if I think they would fire him over that. I don't think UK would fire Cal over that either. I feel like Duke would fire K, but PP92 knows that better than me. I feel very confident that Mitch Barnhart would fire Cal. Other AD's of UK past would not, but I really think Mitch would.
June 15, 20179 yr Some of what I had heard a couple weeks back. - The panel that set the judgements was made up 6 participants (coaches I believe, not necessarily basketball, of member schools. - 3 were already ready to deliver a severe blow in terms of penalties. Other 3 were not yet 'set'. - Strong penalties were expected. Number of head coach suspended games was expected to be higher on outset. - Expectation that appeal process would allow for some relief - so appeal was/is already in consideration. The whole thing is still surreal in some ways. The question of 'did Pitino know or condone' should be obvious. He would not have let that go on in the hall named for his bother-in-law. Could he, should he have known? The ruling makes it clear what the official opinion was. And it seems logical that some level of oversight is and should be expected. Somehow it seems like a conversation like this may have occurred - Pitino - "Andre, what are plans for the recruits?" McGee: "Yeah coach, just keeping them in Minarde tonight. They had a long day." So with that would a red flag be raised? But with McGee not helping the investigation it seems the air never cleared. While not a lot of money, there was money involved and the question of the source seems still out there.
June 15, 20179 yr That was one tweet. Many others explain exactly what's happening. He's been all over this. Crawford's journalism has not been lacking on this in any way. I get your point and I don't disagree. That said, how hard would it have been to actually get it right? Instead of "The NCAA, as of today, has instructed UofL to vacate its 2013 national title, a first in men's basketball history. Appeal to come," make it "The NCAA has instructed UofL to provide data which would vacate its 2013 national title, a first in men's basketball history. Appeal to come."
June 15, 20179 yr I feel like Duke would fire K, but PP92 knows that better than me. I feel very confident that Mitch Barnhart would fire Cal. Other AD's of UK past would not, but I really think Mitch would. After reading just part of the NCAA report I think Duke would fire K and and UK would fire Cal. Teachers get arrested for having sex with students. McGee supplied sex for minors. Katina left out a lot of stuff in her book.
June 15, 20179 yr After reading just part of the NCAA report I think Duke would fire K and and UK would fire Cal. Teachers get arrested for having sex with students. McGee supplied sex for minors. Katina left out a lot of stuff in her book. Yeah she left out a few parts in which she pimped out her kids to some other people's kids. UofL screwed up here, but that woman is foul and deserves whatever karmic awfulness comes her way.
June 15, 20179 yr Some of what I had heard a couple weeks back. - The panel that set the judgements was made up 6 participants (coaches I believe, not necessarily basketball, of member schools. - 3 were already ready to deliver a severe blow in terms of penalties. Other 3 were not yet 'set'. - Strong penalties were expected. Number of head coach suspended games was expected to be higher on outset. - Expectation that appeal process would allow for some relief - so appeal was/is already in consideration. The whole thing is still surreal in some ways. The question of 'did Pitino know or condone' should be obvious. He would not have let that go on in the hall named for his bother-in-law. Could he, should he have known? The ruling makes it clear what the official opinion was. And it seems logical that some level of oversight is and should be expected. Somehow it seems like a conversation like this may have occurred - Pitino - "Andre, what are plans for the recruits?" McGee: "Yeah coach, just keeping them in Minarde tonight. They had a long day." So with that would a red flag be raised? But with McGee not helping the investigation it seems the air never cleared. While not a lot of money, there was money involved and the question of the source seems still out there. I don't think the money has as much to do with this issue than the morality of it.
June 15, 20179 yr Author I don't think the money has as much to do with this issue than the morality of it. I agree, but still wonder where the money came from. I'm not buying that McGhee was funding this on his own.
June 15, 20179 yr I don't think the money has as much to do with this issue than the morality of it. For sure.
June 15, 20179 yr Yeah she left out a few parts in which she pimped out her kids to some other people's kids. UofL screwed up here, but that woman is foul and deserves whatever karmic awfulness comes her way. She mentioned Blakeney and Lyle and I remember one of them not having sex with her daughter while she had sex with the dad but some of that other stuff in the report wasn't in the book. Like McGee giving the kids a condom and guiding them into the room with a naked chick waiting. The book also focused more on the players than the recruits. 15 prospective recruits and only 3 players named? That's insane.
June 15, 20179 yr Bruce Pearl got fired for a BBQ, Rick gets 5 games for a prostitution scandal. Bruce Pearl got caught lying about knowingly breaking the rules. Rick hasn't been caught in a lie yet.
June 15, 20179 yr I agree, but still wonder where the money came from. I'm not buying that McGhee was funding this on his own. I can simply because it wasn't much money spent at all. He'd give her free tickets for her services sometimes. 300-400 bucks a pop isn't that much. I think the most money spent at one time was the 1K for Blakeney and his dad or whatever that amount was.
June 15, 20179 yr I agree, but still wonder where the money came from. I'm not buying that McGhee was funding this on his own. But per the NCAA's own math, not a lot of money changed hands here.
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