Wakefield was a no-doubt first-teamer in preseason but hardly played all year.

 

His stats:

 

7 games, 15 catches, 287 yards, 4 TDs

 

 

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If all 3 kickers are better than Daugherty then they're really good.

Were players allowed to be selected on both sides of the ball or was it one position only?

If all 3 kickers are better than Daugherty then they're really good.

 

Agree. How many kickers can put a kickoff through the goalposts?

Keep in mind, this is voted on by the coaches across the state. They make these determinations based on film they see and games they see certain players. IF a kid doesn't stand out in those few instances, then they usually don't garner a vote. Coaches also swap players for votes to get their kids on the list. Also keep in mind, most of you are like the coaches, you don't see many games outside your region of the state. Fans have bias...so do coaches. I know of several kids that are on the list because of their dad's being coaches...nothing wrong with it in my book. It is what it is. Congrats to all the kids that made the teams! This will mean something to those kids. It usually doesn't correlate to college recruiting, colleges don't concern themselves with stats either. Height, weight, 40, look test, and camp performances are what get your scholarship solidified, not newspaper clips. LOL

 

I Agree with Dark Horse...Congrats to all the players, what an accomplishment for these young men. Politics, favoritism and horse trading will always be part of the story line. If a player didn’t get selected don’t get all tore up..College recruiters don't put much stock in these lists. They look for players that fit their system and have the measurable to play on Saturday.

That is exactly why I do not think Binder should have been selected over many of these other guys.

 

If he got a 1st team pick at Guard where he started all year I could see it...but giving it to him based off starting only six games at DT when other kids have made an entire body of work based off two or three years in my mind should hold water.

 

Awarding him the honor for average essentially 4 tackles per game over a 6 game stretch (which Scott County's Defense allowed over 30 points in half of those games) is not enough to leapfrog some of the names behind him who averaged over 7 or 8 tackles per game and had double digit sack totals.

 

Could you give me the names of some of the kids you think he leapfrogged? I would like to do my due-diligance and look at them. Because I'm not familiar with all the names.

 

Also, is the award based on your career body of work? I didn't think that was the case, but maybe I'm wrong.

Agree. How many kickers can put a kickoff through the goalposts?

 

Surprised that Burgett from Pulaski failed to make HM

Sending shout-out to Jacob Woosley - QB Trinity.

 

Not even an honorable mention selection. Completed 71% of his passes for 2,330 yards - 28 TD'S and only 4 INTs. Added another 113 yards on the ground with 3 TD'S. Great job of leading the Shamrocks this year while playing WR/DB in the previous 3 years.

 

Hard for all the kids to get the recognition they deserve especially when the Louisville coaches aren't voting. Appreciate Jason sharing that little tidbit.

That is exactly why I do not think Binder should have been selected over many of these other guys.

 

If he got a 1st team pick at Guard where he started all year I could see it...but giving it to him based off starting only six games at DT when other kids have made an entire body of work based off two or three years in my mind should hold water.

 

Awarding him the honor for average essentially 4 tackles per game over a 6 game stretch (which Scott County's Defense allowed over 30 points in half of those games) is not enough to leapfrog some of the names behind him who averaged over 7 or 8 tackles per game and had double digit sack totals.

 

And my argument was that in those six games, Trey Binder's play was all-state worthy.

Surprised that Burgett from Pulaski failed to make HM

 

I would agree with you on that one 100 percent. Actually thought Dougherty would be the one left out to be quite honest.

And my argument was that in those six games, Trey Binder's play was all-state worthy.

 

vs. Lafayette

2 Solo Tackles, 1 Assisted

 

vs. Bryan Station

5 Solo Tackles, 2 Assisted

 

vs. GRC

2 Solo Tackles

 

vs. CovCath

4 Solo tackles, 1 Assisted

 

vs. Dunbar

8 Solo Tackles

 

 

5 Games To End Season... the Regular Season Bryan Station game has no stats. Three of those games Scott County's Defense gave up 30+ Points

 

Only twice did he go over the 5 Tackle Mark

 

Not only that... from what I see on Hudl calling him a "DL" is a major stretch in itself..he was more of a LB than a DL

 

Scott County High School vs. George Rogers Clark - Trey Binder highlights

 

 

 

I am sorry.. the kid is a great HS football player and an All-State worthy Guard... but having him take All-State 1st Team Honors at DL as primarily a LB who played less than Half the Season is bad form by the CJ

I'm going to post this and leave it here about All-State teams:

 

* Some people want it to be a list of the best college prospects in the state. If you're going to do it that way, might as well vote on the team before the season ever starts.

 

* Some people want it to be a list of the players with the best stats. But this doesn't factor in strength of schedule, players only playing 2-3 quarters because of blowouts.

 

* Some people think if you win a state championship, you should have more All-State players than other teams. But this leaves the regular season rather meaningless and doesn't factor in that some teams have much tougher playoff roads than others.

 

* Some people think if their son isn't first-team All-State, the entire list is bogus.

 

* Some people think the third-best QB in their area HAS to be better than the best QB in another area. Of course, that person never has seen EITHER QB play.

 

So many agendas. So many ways of doing it.

 

Of all the All-State teams out there, none has more people involved (126) than The Courier-Journal's.

 

No way is it perfect, NOT EVEN CLOSE. But there's no way anyone EVER is going to put out a perfect All-State team.

 

Thanks to each of you for being so passionate about the sport.

I would agree with you on that one 100 percent. Actually thought Dougherty would be the one left out to be quite honest.

 

I was very impressed with Dougherty in the game I saw. He had a strong leg and converted on the FG with ease. Very good player! I only saw 1 of the top 3 kickers on the list but could've seen him as a top 3 kicker this year.

 

Didn't he play some LB for Highlands as well?

vs. Lafayette

2 Solo Tackles, 1 Assisted

 

vs. Bryan Station

5 Solo Tackles, 2 Assisted

 

vs. GRC

2 Solo Tackles

 

vs. CovCath

4 Solo tackles, 1 Assisted

 

vs. Dunbar

8 Solo Tackles

 

 

5 Games To End Season... the Regular Season Bryan Station game has no stats. Three of those games Scott County's Defense gave up 30+ Points

 

Only twice did he go over the 5 Tackle Mark

 

Not only that... from what I see on Hudl calling him a "DL" is a major stretch in itself..he was more of a LB than a DL

 

Scott County High School vs. George Rogers Clark - Trey Binder highlights

 

 

 

I am sorry.. the kid is a great HS football player and an All-State worthy Guard... but having him take All-State 1st Team Honors at DL as primarily a LB who played less than Half the Season is bad form by the CJ

 

You seem to be basing it off stats. That's OK. Statistically there were several other kids who were better. You are right.

I'm going to post this and leave it here about All-State teams:

 

* Some people want it to be a list of the best college prospects in the state. If you're going to do it that way, might as well vote on the team before the season ever starts.

 

* Some people want it to be a list of the players with the best stats. But this doesn't factor in strength of schedule, players only playing 2-3 quarters because of blowouts.

 

* Some people think if you win a state championship, you should have more All-State players than other teams. But this leaves the regular season rather meaningless and doesn't factor in that some teams have much tougher playoff roads than others.

 

* Some people think if their son isn't first-team All-State, the entire list is bogus.

 

* Some people think the third-best QB in their area HAS to be better than the best QB in another area. Of course, that person never has seen EITHER QB play.

 

So many agendas. So many ways of doing it.

 

Of all the All-State teams out there, none has more people involved (126) than The Courier-Journal's.

 

No way is it perfect, NOT EVEN CLOSE. But there's no way anyone EVER is going to put out a perfect All-State team.

 

Thanks to each of you for being so passionate about the sport.

 

 

I appreciate all that you do Jason