I love his game too. I really can't think of someone that played old-school PG this good in college since Chris Paul. He's just tiny. I think he would really struggle to defend in the NBA, but they also said that about Steph Curry too.

 

I think he's a guy that has a long career as a back-up PG, but because he's not going to grow anytime soon and the guys around him are just going to keep getting bigger, stronger, and more athletic, there's not really a ton of upside with him.

 

Maybe as much as anyone, he's going to need to go to the right team and system. There are times when his match-ups are going to be more advantageous than others, sometimes wildly so.

 

If he's on a team/in a system where he has a fair amount of talent around him, is in command of the second unit or runs the offense when he's in (obviously), and the team is playing fast-paced, then he's probably going to be alright.

 

Fact of the matter is that because of what he gives up in terms of defense and rebounding means that he's more likely to have an impact playing up-tempo because there's more chances for him to have a "the good outweighed the bad" type of game.

 

Would really like to see him as the leader of one of those deep bench units where the guys do come in and play together like a platoon (second units in the NBA play together much more than 2nd units in college). He's probably the guy who has benefitted most from all the talent that UK has, he just sets back and distributes, then picks his spots when you lose focus, and can make some plays on offense even when you don't.

 

If he's on a team like the Warriors or Thunder, then you like his chances way more than being on a grind it out team like the Bulls, Grizzlies, whoever. Because his game is so reliant on setting up everyone else, teams like the 76ers, T'wolves, or Jazz, it's easier to see him being out of the league more quickly as well.

 

If he gets the right fit, I think he can stick around for awhile and will add value to some teams (and you really need about 8 to 10 solid players to win in the NBA, so it's not really as if you can just underestimate the importance of having a guy like him versus having someone like Tony Wroten), but it's hard to see him starting for a playoff contender unless they have thins around him that most others in that situation wouldn't require (i.e., someone who terrorizes people on defense, particularly at the rim & guys who don't need the ball in their hands a ton to make plays).

Lets see...........set picks...........rim run...........block shots...........play defense..............rebound...........I really dont think he will be a back to the basket guy, if anything I think he will develop a face up game at the next level and be a cosumate teammate..........and make alot of money:popcorn:

I think he's a guy that has a long career as a back-up PG, but because he's not going to grow anytime soon and the guys around him are just going to keep getting bigger, stronger, and more athletic, there's not really a ton of upside with him.

 

Maybe as much as anyone, he's going to need to go to the right team and system. There are times when his match-ups are going to be more advantageous than others, sometimes wildly so.

 

If he's on a team/in a system where he has a fair amount of talent around him, is in command of the second unit or runs the offense when he's in (obviously), and the team is playing fast-paced, then he's probably going to be alright.

 

Fact of the matter is that because of what he gives up in terms of defense and rebounding means that he's more likely to have an impact playing up-tempo because there's more chances for him to have a "the good outweighed the bad" type of game.

 

Would really like to see him as the leader of one of those deep bench units where the guys do come in and play together like a platoon (second units in the NBA play together much more than 2nd units in college). He's probably the guy who has benefitted most from all the talent that UK has, he just sets back and distributes, then picks his spots when you lose focus, and can make some plays on offense even when you don't.

 

If he's on a team like the Warriors or Thunder, then you like his chances way more than being on a grind it out team like the Bulls, Grizzlies, whoever. Because his game is so reliant on setting up everyone else, teams like the 76ers, T'wolves, or Jazz, it's easier to see him being out of the league more quickly as well.

 

If he gets the right fit, I think he can stick around for awhile and will add value to some teams (and you really need about 8 to 10 solid players to win in the NBA, so it's not really as if you can just underestimate the importance of having a guy like him versus having someone like Tony Wroten), but it's hard to see him starting for a playoff contender unless they have thins around him that most others in that situation wouldn't require (i.e., someone who terrorizes people on defense, particularly at the rim & guys who don't need the ball in their hands a ton to make plays).

 

Fit is important. I think his defensive concerns could be negated by the right system. A scrambling system like Miami had with LeBron would hide him. Chicago's defensive system would hide him.

 

He has to go to a good defensive coach. Offensively he'll be fine. He can play fast or slow. I don't think he'd have a problem on that end, though teams would target him in the pick and roll.

 

To me, he's a guy that in the 20 range you take a chance on. Don't see him going this year.

I feel the same way, but I have a good friend who keeps saying he thinks he'll be back. I keep telling him he has nothing to come back for, and that his stock won't be any higher. He keeps using how much WCS loves the college experience as his reason.

 

It wouldn't shock me. He does seem to enjoy life at UK and has even said at one point he wasn't sure if he wanted to play Pro ball. I don't think he will come back especially if they win the title but we will know probably in a couple of weeks.

Chris Webber said something?

Fit is important. I think his defensive concerns could be negated by the right system. A scrambling system like Miami had with LeBron would hide him. Chicago's defensive system would hide him.

 

He has to go to a good defensive coach. Offensively he'll be fine. He can play fast or slow. I don't think he'd have a problem on that end, though teams would target him in the pick and roll.

 

To me, he's a guy that in the 20 range you take a chance on. Don't see him going this year.

 

Agreed. Keeping his man off the boards and defending the pick and roll are two areas that he's really going to struggle in. Kind of weird, but I think he's okay against huge dudes in the pick and roll because he's such a small, quick target, but when smaller guys pick him, that's where he'll get hurt more.

What was Benson 6'9" or so?

 

6' 11"

As much as WCS loves the college life, would anyone be shocked if he came back for his Sr. season?

 

Not at all. My nephew hangs out with him, quite a bit actually, and he has said on several occasions how much WCS enjoys the college life. I for one would love to see it, but you know Coach Cal will persuade him to move on especially if he is a first rounder.

Seth Greenberg went at Webber a bit today on Mike and Mike. He started by asking for a timeout (lol) then said Webber couldn't have seen DeAndre Jordan in college. He said Jordan had no pulse and said that WCS is a better player at this stage than Jordan was. He pulled out the stats and reminded folks that Jordan didn't even start in college.

 

I hate that Webber felt the need to be so definitively negative. He is awful at being the heel. He should focus on being a face like Grant Hill. Guys want to do what Barkley does but Barkley is genuine in delivering his opinion. The rawness is the appeal.

 

Webber felt contrived and calculated and then was easily proven flat wrong on the logic behind his assessment. Micheal Smith pointed this out in the next segment on Mike and Mike. Poor effort by Webber, IMO.

Chris Webber said something?

 

Time out, time out, time out. Who?

What surprised me more than anything is Webber saying that a big that doesn't score more then 10 a game CAN'T play in the league. I admit I watch little NBA ball but is that really that accurate?

 

For the record it doesn't bother what he said, everyone has an opinion. I just hope WCS proves him wrong.

What surprised me more than anything is Webber saying that a big that doesn't score more then 10 a game CAN'T play in the league. I admit I watch little NBA ball but is that really that accurate?

 

For the record it doesn't bother what he said, everyone has an opinion. I just hope WCS proves him wrong.

 

Can't see the 10 ppg comment being correct. Even if so, why does he think WCS can't score 10 per game in the NBA? He scores 9ppg playing less than 2/3 of a game and is the 5th option on offense while expending a great amount of energy on defense. He's had games where he put up double his average, usually when it appears he's trying to make a point after being called out for a lack of offense. I would imagine if called upon he would get the 10 per game in the NBA.

What surprised me more than anything is Webber saying that a big that doesn't score more then 10 a game CAN'T play in the league. I admit I watch little NBA ball but is that really that accurate?

 

For the record it doesn't bother what he said, everyone has an opinion. I just hope WCS proves him wrong.

 

The guy that started the comparison, DeAndre Jordan, averaged 8 pts. and 6 boards in college.

The guy that started the comparison, DeAndre Jordan, averaged 8 pts. and 6 boards in college.

 

Let's be honest. Webber didn't watch one second of DeAndre Jordan in college. It is so difficult to project mental and physical maturation of players.

Let's be honest. Webber didn't watch one second of DeAndre Jordan in college. It is so difficult to project mental and physical maturation of players.

 

And he probably didn't watch Cauley-Stein until the tournament.