I created this account because I knew this would hit sooner rather than later and after talking with Chris Thursday night and knowing he was going to meet with the kids Friday, I figured someone who actually knows should and was on staff should post and put the truth out there before little man and his supporters spread their propaganda. And it will happen, just wait and see what the who’s who of green co. begins posting. But understand, this is the reality and only post I will make. Take it or leave it, I have no axe to grind.

 

I coached with both Mike and Chris and can say without a doubt this was the good ole’ boy system at its best. Thursday Chris had a closed door meeting with the super, the principal and AD did not attend as they did not support what the super was doing. The super asked Chris if he was going to move to Green Co. this year and when Chris told him that it wasn’t an option at this time…he was forced to resign. The super knew this and used it knowing Chris couldn't just pack up and leave and especially if his job was in question after every tough season. I know when he won the job he told them that he could not move to Green for some time due to obligations he had in other arenas, and they knew that when they hired him. With that said, this was a few board members and a “little” problem that can’t stay away from the program that has stirred the pot enough with the super to make this change less than 2 years after they knew they needed to go in a completely different direction after Mike resigned during the DeSales game 2 seasons ago.

 

The reality is that these kids played hard for Chris. They were held accountable as players for discipline, attendance, and their actions. Something that hadn’t happened before if you were a star player. Some will say the off-season program was non-existent. Not true. At GC we have strength and conditioning classes so Chris made workout books for every kid in the program, had the weight room open 4 days a week for 2 hours for kids who didn’t have strength class or didn’t play another sport, and also had it open 3 mornings a week at 6am for kids who played other sports or had to work. Chris attended all the home middle school games but one and traveled to several. He was at home little league games and interacted with the kids, rather than just standing up by the gate and watching from afar. He also brought up the 8th graders to play with the freshmore team to acclimate them to the program early. In short he was involved. He didn’t run the little program, that has been done by an assistant coach for years even though another will take credit where it is NOT due.

 

I know in my conversations with the principal and AD that discipline was at a premium in the building with our football players and that had not happened before. The bottom line is Chris didn’t win enough games (7-12 and 0-2 playoffs). Won the same games as we did in Coach G’s last year (except we replaced Caldwell for Clinton) and from game 1 to the playoff game we made great improvements nearly beating Bardstown whom had beaten us by 35 to losing by a TD in the playoff game. This past season was odd, lost 8 players with season ending injuries, and had more than 20 total (cant recall the exact number, you lose count after a while). This was just one of those seasons we have every now and then. We have been trending toward this for years, winning one less game every year since the 11 win season. I know Chris was excited about the upcoming year. He had already started "optional" weights before Thanksgiving, was going to get to play his schedule, and this freshman group was his first real class. I certainly hope that whomever we hire next will get a fair and decent shake. A coach deserves that much.

 

Having coached with both coaches, and having coached here for many years, they had different philosophies but both were very good. The district hired Chris to bring in discipline and accountability, and it was something that we as assistants wanted more than anything when we met with Chris in our first staff meeting. It’s a shame he won’t get to see the foundation he laid come to fruition. But with everything I have seen this year in high school football we are trending toward a “win or you’re out” mentality. We will probably win 7-8 ball games next year as nearly everyone returns and the 6 starters we lost during an injury plagued season will be back. Some will get on here and bash Chris, I know he doesn’t concern himself with it, but I think it’s only fair that someone from the inside give an actual account versus those who will draft lies to defame people. Good luck if you read this coach, God’s plan for you is unfolding.

 

I won't post again, I am over it. If anyone has any questions PM me. I am happy to speak with anyone individually. Happy Holidays.

Shouldn't that apply to their administration as well? If I am not mistaken the Green County superintendent's wife works in the Hart County school system. I believe he lives in Green County but at the same time it's okay for him to have someone who doesn't live in the area of their employment but just not his football coach?

 

I'm also fairly certain that both basketball coaches live in Taylor and Adair respectively. Someone correct me if I am wrong on this one.

If living in the community is a requirement then some type of housing should be provided or a housing bonus included when signing. Which will never and should never happen at the high school level. If location is the only reason people are being let go, the KHSAA should sanction the school or coach should file a legal grievance.

I'm also fairly certain that both basketball coaches live in Taylor and Adair respectively. Someone correct me if I am wrong on this one.

 

I've heard the same thing.

 

IF Engstrand was let go because he didn't live in Green County or had no plans to, that stinks. Housing market in Hardin County is much better and the commute isn't bad. Plus, his wife doesn't work in Green -- correct me if I'm wrong -- and if she works closer to E'town than Green, it would make sense to live in Hardin County.

Fact of the matter is hs coaches have no job protection. They coach for the love of the game and the kids that play for them. This is unfortunate considering all they do and are expected to do. Not to mention how they are so easily cast aside.

 

 

Sounds like we have a lot of administrators having higher expectations for their football coaches than themselves and the districts they run.

if you all haven't notice admins or most of them NO NOTHING ABOUT SPORTS. He should have made them fire him!!!! but it is a shame these admin are so dumb they look at college sports and see how guys get fired after 3 or so years and think high school sports is that way. Well it isn't at least in the public schools you are going to have down years unless you are like some coaches and recruit. He is not the first coach to be fired for some bull and will not be the last good luck to him!!!!

So have any positions been filled as of yet? Most programs - if they haven't started winter training and conditioning for the 2015 season already - will be starting into things immediately after the new year.

Of the 21 that came open before Christmas, only one is rumored to be filled already. Chapman to Knott County Central.

 

Most schools don't do much with them over the 2 week Christmas Break. Some will and are, but most most wait until after the new year...if nothing else to get a better idea of what teaching positions are going to be out there (either an idea of openings for the rest of the year and/or knowing the budgets for next year if new positions are needed to be added or in some cases, created).

How long will a school wait? I know they want to get the best coach possible, but how willing are they to delay the off season workouts and installations? With jobs the way they are now in schools, they don't know about any new openings typically till April. And most districts are penny pinching as it is, so creating new jobs doesn't happen like it used to. What about the assistants on staffs are they willing to run the off season not knowing if they are going to be back next season?

How long will a school wait? I know they want to get the best coach possible, but how willing are they to delay the off season workouts and installations? With jobs the way they are now in schools, they don't know about any new openings typically till April. And most districts are penny pinching as it is, so creating new jobs doesn't happen like it used to. What about the assistants on staffs are they willing to run the off season not knowing if they are going to be back next season?

 

Each school's situation is different, as I'm sure you're well aware of. I'd like to think a school's administration would move as quickly as possible when making a hire, but that's not always the easiest or best route to take.

Of the 21 that came open before Christmas, only one is rumored to be filled already. Chapman to Knott County Central.

 

Most schools don't do much with them over the 2 week Christmas Break. Some will and are, but most most wait until after the new year...if nothing else to get a better idea of what teaching positions are going to be out there (either an idea of openings for the rest of the year and/or knowing the budgets for next year if new positions are needed to be added or in some cases, created).

 

 

Pretty sure Chapman to KCC is true. Coach Amis sent out an email today seeking a D-Coordinator

Pretty sure Chapman to KCC is true. Coach Amis sent out an email today seeking a D-Coordinator

Did Coach Weedman from Carroll County leave to another job after his 7 year stint? What's the story behind that?

 

Plus I want to see this back on top and relevant again...

Add Sheldon Clark to the list. Coach Shawn Hager resigned yesterday according to WYMT.

 

Shawn reportedly will remain the baseball coach.

Been very calm around the NKY area so far with coaching news. I am actually kind of surprised. Usually there are 2 or 3 changes in this area it seems like. Is it safe to say most, if not all, NKY coaches will remain at their particular schools? Or is there a chance something is going to open up soon?

^^^Here is hoping for the kids and programs sakes, that things stay quiet for a bit. Been a lot of turn over in NKY the last few years just like in other parts of the state.

 

Highlands, NewCath, Ryle, Boone, Holmes, Campbell, Newport, Brossart, Dixie, Grant, Gallatin, Bellevue, Lloyd, etc have all seen a change of command (or two) in the last few years.