Had to slow down and read this, typing like you speak isn't recommended. You're right and wrong on several accounts. All of those years in the mid 2000's John had nearly double the enrollment, and that is the biggest issue. Being under 800 students limits the crop greatly. I know they had several former players comeback and talk to the kids at practice, I would say that is welcoming and respecting the tradition. Witherspoon quit last year before the playoffs, so this is kind of a trend for him. He wouldn't have been able to finish the year anyway due to eligibility and I will leave it at that. John has lost to North 3 of the last 4 years (again, the enrollment issue). They have 1 senior that I am aware of getting any college looks, and that is Livers...he had about the same year he had last year, so the talent you mentioned is really just in your head. John WAS shut out last year, and you are correct, it wasn't at home but on the road. John isn't used to being put out in the first round...agreed, gotta get bigger and stronger and a recent hire will help with that this off-season. Turnovers were a downfall this year. 35 or 36 on the year...I think is what I read. That is the big issue. This whole "some kids this some kids that", is usually the banter of the quitters or parents of quitters. Not a single kid has transferred, nor will any, in fact some that didn't play have told coaches and other kids they want to come back out. Discipline is much better, look at the reduction in personal fouls, school referrals...etc. All are improved, in fact I read in the paper during the season several were benched for violating team rules (rare occurrence at John). As for kids being suspended for bucking the system, THAT IS DISCIPLINE. You can't buck the system. In fact, a small handful were dismissed for this. I will say it one more time...Harness DID NOT contact the head coach about joining the staff. I can say with 100% confidence he would have been welcomed with open arms. Offensively they were better than they were last year in yards per game per KHSAA, but the turnovers can really limit how many you score (they averaged about 1 TD less per game). But the bold stood out to me the most, are you one of the ones that didn't get recognized? Or was it your son? I love reading the angry parent posts, those always make me laugh most. Especially from people who join a chat board just to dog a program (no pun intended). If you wanna grind an axe, go for it, this is certainly the place!