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China bound Jet Missing...239 on board

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Plantman, you seem to know a lot about airplanes, did you used to fly them?

 

Why can't they make transponders to where you cannot shut them off, at least in flight?

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It's surprising in this age of tracking and surveillance that this can happen.

It's a misconception that airliners need big paved runways to land/take off.

 

In 2001 I landed at Plummer's Lodge at Great Slave Lake in the Northwest Territories on a 727 on an uneven, unpaved, and un-straight runway. The big jet had no problems whatsoever.

 

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It's a misconception that airliners need big paved runways to land/take off.

 

In 2001 I landed at Plummer's Lodge at Great Slave Lake in the Northwest Territories on a 727 on an uneven, unpaved, and un-straight runway. The big jet had no problems whatsoever.

 

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A 777 is a quite a bit bigger than a 727, though...

It's a misconception that airliners need big paved runways to land/take off.

 

In 2001 I landed at Plummer's Lodge at Great Slave Lake in the Northwest Territories on a 727 on an uneven, unpaved, and un-straight runway. The big jet had no problems whatsoever.

 

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Yikes, I don't even like landing and taking off on paved runways. This a pretty big plane.

Plantman, you seem to know a lot about airplanes, did you used to fly them?

 

Why can't they make transponders to where you cannot shut them off, at least in flight?

 

Worked in Aircraft parts/maintenance for 6 years in my past.

 

As I said in an above post there are reasons they need to be able to turn them off, just from a maintenance standpoint as well as other security reasons that I wont go into.

So the Chinese wreckage turns up fruitless. I am starting to believe this plane may have traveled a lot further than they think. I hope so for the survivors if it's sitting around somewhere. But if it is what do they plan to do with it?

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I'll still say that it is in the water or slammed into a jungle way off from where it was last identified. This isn't Lost or a CIA conspiracy where it went and landed somewhere and everyone is alive and well.

Based on scientific research (ie Castaway), it's possible for a plane to go down in the ocean without ever being found. I fear the worst for these passengers.

Worked in Aircraft parts/maintenance for 6 years in my past.

 

As I said in an above post there are reasons they need to be able to turn them off, just from a maintenance standpoint as well as other security reasons that I wont go into.

Is it possible for the plane to have suffered electrical issues that would basically take out all of the instruments, transponder, radio, ect but leave the plane flyable? Meaning they didn't know where they were and couldn't call anyone, turned in a direction they thought would get them to an airport the fastest but just didn't make? Just throwing crap at the wall here.

Is it possible for the plane to have suffered electrical issues that would basically take out all of the instruments, transponder, radio, ect but leave the plane flyable? Meaning they didn't know where they were and couldn't call anyone, turned in a direction they thought would get them to an airport the fastest but just didn't make? Just throwing crap at the wall here.

 

You would think someone could get a call or message out. Not sure how phones work over the ocean.

Is it possible for the plane to have suffered electrical issues that would basically take out all of the instruments, transponder, radio, ect but leave the plane flyable? Meaning they didn't know where they were and couldn't call anyone, turned in a direction they thought would get them to an airport the fastest but just didn't make? Just throwing crap at the wall here.

 

Is it possible to still fly the plane with the instruments out, yes sorta. If all electrics were out, fly it to the ground yes but thats about it.

 

Here is the thing, planes are in triple redundancy for the systems, so more than likely things were turned off.

You would think someone could get a call or message out. Not sure how phones work over the ocean.

 

Depends on the airline as well, some have the equipment to create blockers only allowing certain frequencies to leave the plan if you will. Kinda like a signal jammer in some aspects.

There is so much misinformation it has to be frustrating. It appears they are listening more to FAA and NSTA every day. They have turned their attention to the Indian Ocean as everyone I am sure has read. There is a strong belief things were manually turned off, but have no clue why. We may never know why. I feel they will find it, but it is going to take a while maybe months. Pieces of the plane whether it landed mostly intact or bodies or articles will eventually drift to civilization and they will piece it together.

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