GR8BigBull

Football (as I know everyone already knows) is a very expensive sport to support. All the equipment needs (new, rpairing, reconditioning) and uniforms, staff, field maintenance, etc, etc. Most schools have more students participating in football than any other sport, sometimes more than 2-3 other sports combined. Couple that with a minimal attendance at home games and their could me a major shortfall in the sport supporting itself. Of course that does not include money that has to be shared with other sports and groups. With the lack of budget money for such things as sports and other activities, this money has to come from somewhere. Ever increasing budget cuts have led to some schools already dropping other sports altogether. I know that players have been paying fees to play for years now and I am afraid it is somewhat of a necessity to stay competitive.

I have seen Coach Weston work at practice, games, fundraisers, etc. He is a class individual with a passion for the game and the best interest of his kids in mind. Oh, and by the way, he wins games with the cards he is dealt. What more does a coach have to do? I think there are alot of schools who would benefit greatly from having Weston (or any coach of his stature and character) on their staff or heading their program!

Hmmm......Good Question!

In the state of Kentucky? Definitions of Level1 or 2 Coach according to KHSAA site: Sec. 1) Defi nitions a) Level 1 Coaches An individual seeking a coaching position shall be categorized as Level 1 if such individual is a certified teacher and member of the regular school system faculty and meets the following criteria prior to assignment to coaching duties: i) Is employed a minimum of three (3) regular periods for teaching classes, including physical education; ii) Is employed for supervision of study halls; and/or iii) Is exercising responsibilities in other activity assignments within the school schedule. b) Level 2 Coaches An individual seeking a coaching position shall be categorized as Level 2 if such individual meets the following criteria prior to assignment to coaching duties and does not meet the qualifi cations of Level 1: i) Shall be 21 years of age; ii) Shall not be a violent offender or convicted of a sex crime as defi ned by KRS 17.165 that is classifi ed as a felony; and iii) Shall submit to a criminal record check under KRS 160.380. iv) Shall meet one of the following additional qualifi cations: a. Have graduated from a public or accredited high school and hold a provisional or standard teaching certifi cate; b. Have completed sixty-four semester hours of college credit from an accredited college or university as documented by an offi cial transcript; or c. Be a graduate from a public or accredited high school and be in compliance with the local district standards for serving as an approved substitute teacher as approved by the Education Professional Standards Board. v) Prior to assuming duties, Level 2 coaches shall successfully complete training provided by the local school district. The training shall include, but not be limited to, information on the physical and emotional development of students of the age with whom the Level II coach will be working, the district’s and school’s discipline policies, procedures for dealing with discipline problems, and safety and fi rst aid training. Follow up training shall be provided annually. In the event that the member school is unable to staff head or assistant coaching positions in any sport or sport activity (including cheerleading) with a Level 1 or Level 2 individual, the member school may request through the Superintendent that the KHSAA allow for a one-time waiver of this rule in order that the additional time be available to find an applicant meeting the criteria. If you are not a Level 1 or 2 coach this pertains: (1) Assisting the Level I and II person(s) assigned duties as a coach in daily and long range athletic activities; (2) Assisting the Level I and II person(s) assigned duties as a coach in planning the program; (3) Demonstrating specifi c skills and tactics but only under the direct and continual supervision of a Level I or II person(s) assigned duties as a coach; (4) Assisting the Level I and II person(s) assigned duties as a coach in guiding participants towards a harmonious team spirit; (5) Alerting the Level I and II person(s) assigned duties as a coach to the special needs of individual athletes; (6) Providing assistance with supervision of athletes during periods of team travel; (7) Recommending to the Level I and II person(s) assigned duties as a coach the purchase of equipment, supplies, and uniforms as appropriate for the health, safety, and welfare of student athletes; (8) Performing other non-coaching duties assigned by the principal, athletic director, or Level I or II person(s) assigned duties as a coach; (9) No person other than those employed as a Level 1 or 2 coach shall be allowed to participate in any supervisory capacity with interscholastic athletic teams or cheerleading squads, perform any other “coaching duty” as prescribed by the playing rules within a sport, nor shall any otherwise qualifi ed person exceed his respective duties as set forth in this Bylaw.

If this is in response to my previous post, I never implied that a "good" coach would be in it for the pay. In certain counties the pay would be quite minimal. Stating that their pay would average less than .05 / hour is and indication that coaching "for the money" is ridiculous to even imply! On the second point, the requirements to be a Recognized (paid and "qualified") Assistant coach includes 64 college credit hours (minimum) also completing a training and passing a test. The training and test are not the hurdles, the 64 college credit hours poses the biggest hurdle for some good coaches to be "allowed" to coach. Most have to help their programs wherever they can as a film guy, statistician, equipment man, etc. Then they still have to submit to a background check (which is definitely a good thing these days). Third, I understand the original post was about position coaches, that is why I responded with the points I made that all positions do not necessarily get the undivided attention of a single coach since they may have two positions to focus on. That is common at smaller programs (who do not platoon) but does happen, at times, in the larger programs as well. I totally agree that some coaches may not be willing to spend extra time (regardless of pay) to learn more about a position and being a better position coach. I feel like a coach can learn from other coaches (on their staff) as well as learning what makes a certain kid "click" and you do not always have to attend (spend a lot of time) at clinics, watching videos or attending training sessions to be better. I guess because I Quoted your response that you may have felt I was attacking your points, not at all, I was trying to expand on the points you made. Sorry if that did offend you though!:thumb:

All schools do(?) have position coaches, just sometimes those coaches are people who meet the minimum requirements to be football coach in their district (or state whatever the case may be). some smaller schools are lucky to have a single position coach for two positions! (Some coach OL-DL, DB-WR). Also, meeting minimum requirements to be a coach does not always translate into a football coach all the time. I know of some position coaches who have taken a job just to get a supplement to their salary (most of the time that is a very minimal sum). Some teachers step up to coach a girl's track team, volleyball, cross country team just because they can make an extra $1200.00-1500.00 per year. There are qualified coaches who would coach (for little or nothing) but they may not meet these minimum requirements in their states. Now about some coaches who may not put in enough time to be better coaches, I think this is the biggest problem. Coaches get very little pay for the time required of them to spend on the practice field, weight room, game prep, film, game nights, etc. The more they work, the less their pay actually becomes. Not making an excuse, just stating that there may be this very large obstacle to get around for coaches to be willing to put in even more time. The hourly pay for most would average less than a nickel per hour! I have said many times before that every time I am with a player (group of players) or a coach (group of coaches) I learn something. That is the best part of being involved in football (especially at the High School level).

Talk about "bridging" a gap! This is what is so special about sports (especially at this level). There are so many lessons to learn (and teach) and everyone can learn (or teach) them. I have never had a day while being involved in high school football when a player (or another coach) has NOT had something I could look at and learn from. The real emotional part in this great story for me was the appreciation those young men had for what the Faith fans, players, and coaches did for them.

Colerain is still up in the air, I hear that we are supposed to go there (in 2009) but the hang up might be them returning the trip in 2010! So no contract thus far. Highlands, Fern Creek, Trinity, Colerain(?), Central is the front end of the schedule (tentative) so far. The back half would be Seneca, PRP, St. X, Butler, then Male. By the way, Male is no longer in our district but we decided to keep them on the schedule, Go Figure!

Exactly!

His older brother Marcus (Male alum) also played (DT) at Ohio State.

Psychology 101?:confused:

What was Central's (Louisville) overall record last season going into the playoffs? Their losses came to St. X, Manual, Male, Johnson Central (I believe) and another team from a higher classification. Overall, I think there are too many teams in the playoffs! It does help some of those teams (by adding a week or two of extra practice time) help build for the coming season. This also helps a program like Atherton or Shawnee (who have not made the playoffs in decades) build confidence and pride. Other than that, a top seeded team takes risks in playing their first and second teamers. Games that are very one sided, 63-0, etc and a starting RB gets injured or a QB gets knocked out of the next round game. That is a very realistic possibilty and almost unnecessary IMO.

He played and played very well, looks like he is in mid season form!

The football "north of the border" has improved over the past 20 years BUT it is still far behind that of their American counterparts. Their "University" football (and schools) were on par with our high schools and their Junior leagues were comparable to Middle School teams. That was the case years back and I know they have improved and if they were that highly regarded in Canada, they should be a good contest for most any average team here.

I am not drinking that Kool-Aid just yet. Will check back in September though!!!

Also beat Henry Clay in the first round of finals.

This was just one instance but Manual went to Danvills and played Dunbar in the Bob Allen Classic in 2004 (?). Dunbar was scheduled to return the game in the Rivalry Bowl the next season but backed out. I believe it was a new head coach (Hensley) but still, why would they not make that game? They looked like the real deal in the game in Danville with Vyverberg (sp) at RB and a huge front on O and D. They were hyped before kickoff even chanting some things I can't repeat on this board, ready to send Manual back home with the loss. Manual went on to win the game by 13 points or so. It was a close game for the most part and great competition for both teams. I would like to see some Lexington teams from time to time on the schedule but don't think it will hapen. (Especially now with the extreme cost to travel to these games!)

The team from duPont Manual High School came away from the U of K passing tournament as Champs. After a going 2-1 in the pool play, they were a 15 seed (out of 16 team) and played Henry Clay in the first game of the Championship Bracket. The Rams beat Henry Clay and advanced to play the #1 seeded Shelby County Rockets. Manual beat Shelby County to advance and play Lexington Catholic in the semi final game then finally beating a team from South Carolina for the title. This Tournament was probably the best I have ever participated in. The UK coaches all "oversaw" game timing and 4 second counts, very organized and consistent. The teams were very impressive and competition strong.

I believe the team was actually Arlington Bowie, they are a 5A power (recently) that had some really nice size and smaller players with quickness. QB did a decent job and I was told he was hotly recruited by many D-1 teams including U of L.

If you have not been to one, you should go. They are very competitive! The middle weight classes (165-195) are very impressive every year. The lifters do very good job overall and really "put out" to win their classes! It is very satisfying to watch all lifters when they reach a "personal best". Even more exciting watching these guys break state records.

Trigg County DID win the overall as well as the 2A. (I do believe that Trinity was minus a lifter or two). Not taking ANYTHING away from Trigg, they had a lot of lifters who did real well!:thumb: Congratulations to Trinity in the Nationals, results of alot of hard work!

It depends on the host probably as much as anything. The teams who do not wish to compete under the existing format would just choose not to bring their teams. When proposed two years ago to change the format, several coaches from across the state did not think it was necessary to change it. Some of those schools (and coaches) were not even represented yesterday. So what would it matter to them now? I hope to see that wherever the State Meet is next year (Central Hardin is a great facility and host) maybe they just announce a differnet format and see who decides to come and who stays at home.

Yep! That's the way we do it in Kentucky for the past umpteen years. There have been efforts to change it to the way most other states compete (Bench, Squat and Power Clean) but it gets shot down. We know how much a football state we are, :rolleyes:how long did it take to start Spring Football?

Cissell "totaled" 945 pounds to Trigg County's Billy Grubbs' total of 950 pounds. Cissell's body weight was less as his percentage (body weight into weight lifted) was 4.8964 and Grubbs' percentage was 4.8718. Cissel did come in second by 5 pounds but they use total percentage of body weight when deciding the "Best Overall" lifters. If Cissell had totaled 950 pounds also, he would have won the class (in a tie situation) due to his higher percentage. Either way both these lifters were outstanding as was Trinity's Tim Phillips' total of 905 pounds (165 pound class) for a 5.6281 percentage.

Trigg County - 2A - Total 102 team points, gained alot of points by taking 4th, 5th and 6th place in the 125 pound class with Jonta Backsdale (4th) bench of 145 and dealift of 415 (Total 560), Eric Keeler (5th) benched 180 and deadlifted 375 (Total 555) and Todderick Wilson (6th) benched 155 with a deadlift of 375 (Total 530). Phillip Causler benched 230 and deadlifted 430 (Total 660) to place third in the 135 pound weight class.A first and second place in the 155 pound class with Scotty Mayes' 265 pound bench and 540 deadlift (Total 805) and A.J. Oliver bench of 265 pounds and deadlift of 500 pounds (Total 765). A second place finish by Brandon Bridges in the 165 pound class with a bench of 275 and deadlift of 575 (Total 850) Terrance Miller took 5th with a bench of 255 and deadlift of 475 (Total 730). Drew Poal benched 275 and deadlifted 515 (Total 790) to take first in the 175 pound class while John Young took third with a bench of 260 and deadlift of 500 (Total 760) and James McAtee took 6th with 260 pound bench and 485 pound deadlift (Total 745). Antonio Grubbs won the 195 pound class benching 300 and DL of 650 (950 Total) with Akeem Johnson taking 4th in the same class with lifts of 275/550 (Total 825). Donald Bush placed 6th in the 205 class with a bench of 265 and deadlift of 550 (Total 815). In the 235 pound class, Dustin Calhoun benched 285 and deadlifted 550 (Total 835) to take 6th place Timmy McGee placed second in the 250 class with a 315 pound bench and a deadlift of 650 pounds (Total 965). Montrel Humphries took 4th in the HWT class (250+) with bench of 280 and deadlift of 600 (Total 880). I believe their coach told me he had 46 lifters their, that is unbelievable they had that many lifters who qualified for the State Meet! Congratulations!