I took it to mean that people are spouting hateful comments toward Obama because many pro-Obama people are claiming that he was able to accomplish what GWB could not as it relates to bin Laden. They're taking offense to the notion that it was all Obama & Bush failed.

 

OK. That just proves my point that we are more fractured than we've ever been.

 

To me this is no different than a general leading a long-term mission and then a new general comes in and keeps it going. When that mission is completed it's a tribute to all who have been involved - not just the ones involved now. Are we not to give any credit to soldiers who lost their lives in the hunt simply because they were not alive on Sunday? Silly.

 

Everyone - then and now- who have been involved deserve credit.

OK. That just proves my point that we are more fractured than we've ever been.

 

To me this is no different than a general leading a long-term mission and then a new general comes in and keeps it going. When that mission is completed it's a tribute to all who have been involved - not just the ones involved now. Are we not to give any credit to soldiers who lost their lives in the hunt simply because they were not alive on Sunday? Silly.

 

Everyone - then and now- who have been involved deserve credit.

 

Totally agree.

 

I hate it...absolutely hate it...that people have turned this thing into a Obama v. Bush or Democrat v. Republican thing. More disheartening than it is sickening.

Look in the mirror. My disdain for Obama is well known. I don't try to hide behind a very thin veil of impartiality and then act like I've been wronged when someone calls me out. Some on here can't say the same can they?

I'm not going around using derisive terms like "Obamunists" ... I merely make my points and let them stand.

Totally agree.

 

I hate it...absolutely hate it...that people have turned this thing into a Obama v. Bush or Democrat v. Republican thing. More disheartening than it is sickening.

 

You should have been with me at Joseph-Beth Bookstore doing inventory that night. The left-wingers (& there were MANY) did just that.

 

It was tough, but I decided to hold my tongue.

I guess it depends on who you interact with in person, on Facebook, or in other venues. For me personally, I have a mix of people with whom I interact, but it's probably a 60%-40% in favor of conservatives. Many of them, like myself, resonate and agree with much of the Tea Party line of thinking (I say "line of thinking" because I don't always agree with how they bring their thoughts into words...i.e. their presentation). But from these folks I have (unfortunately) witnessed an attitude of "Obama should get zero credit for this." Look, I didn't vote for Obama & never will, but I give credit to him for making a gutsy call in this situation & helping in the demise of Osama bin Laden. Does Bush deserve some credit? Yes, of course. But to say Obama should get zero praise is ludicrous. Granted, the troops on the ground and intelligence people deserve the most, but Obama is the Commander-In-Chief of the military. On my report card, he gets an A+ in his handling of this situation.

 

Sadly, this has turned into a political conversation in many circles when it should be a time of celebrating that justice was finally done for the families adversely affected by OBL, for the United States, and for the whole world. The time is shortly coming in which we can disagree on issues, but at this moment, I wish we would allow unity and joy to most mark the occasion.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. With each passing day I am seeing and learning how I don't want to sound or present myself when discussing politics. I have much more of a desire to reach the level of unity and middle ground as opposed to always taking a 'you're wrong, I'm right' stance on things. Now more than ever I want to do my part in creating an atmosphere of unity as opposed to division.

OK. That just proves my point that we are more fractured than we've ever been.

 

To me this is no different than a general leading a long-term mission and then a new general comes in and keeps it going. When that mission is completed it's a tribute to all who have been involved - not just the ones involved now. Are we not to give any credit to soldiers who lost their lives in the hunt simply because they were not alive on Sunday? Silly.

 

Everyone - then and now- who have been involved deserve credit.

 

 

Very true. Excellent point.

OK. That just proves my point that we are more fractured than we've ever been.

 

To me this is no different than a general leading a long-term mission and then a new general comes in and keeps it going. When that mission is completed it's a tribute to all who have been involved - not just the ones involved now. Are we not to give any credit to soldiers who lost their lives in the hunt simply because they were not alive on Sunday? Silly.

 

Everyone - then and now- who have been involved deserve credit.:thumb:

:thumb:

OK. That just proves my point that we are more fractured than we've ever been.

 

To me this is no different than a general leading a long-term mission and then a new general comes in and keeps it going. When that mission is completed it's a tribute to all who have been involved - not just the ones involved now. Are we not to give any credit to soldiers who lost their lives in the hunt simply because they were not alive on Sunday? Silly.

 

Everyone - then and now- who have been involved deserve credit.

 

I completely agree with you and have stayed away from the political discussion on my social media for the most part, while many of my friends have not.

 

But, I believe that you are seeing many posts like the one you started this thread with because many people in the general public are not giving credit where credit is due and that is to everyone who is/was involved. From what I gather people are upset because a lot of Obama supporters are not recognizing the fact that Bush deserves just as much credit too, which is funny because Obama even stated that he personally called Bush to tell him. They in turn take offense and you see these posts pop up.

OK. That just proves my point that we are more fractured than we've ever been.

 

To me this is no different than a general leading a long-term mission and then a new general comes in and keeps it going. When that mission is completed it's a tribute to all who have been involved - not just the ones involved now. Are we not to give any credit to soldiers who lost their lives in the hunt simply because they were not alive on Sunday? Silly.

 

Everyone - then and now- who have been involved deserve credit.

 

Great point.

 

The problem is those on the left will never give Bush credit for anything and those on the right will find any way to discredit Obama's involvment. It's sad on both parts. Why we can't just say job well done by all and leave it at that.

OK. That just proves my point that we are more fractured than we've ever been.

 

To me this is no different than a general leading a long-term mission and then a new general comes in and keeps it going. When that mission is completed it's a tribute to all who have been involved - not just the ones involved now. Are we not to give any credit to soldiers who lost their lives in the hunt simply because they were not alive on Sunday? Silly.

 

Everyone - then and now- who have been involved deserve credit.

Very well said, Clyde!

A very simple analogy---someone is struggling to open the jar, twisting and turning, but it does not budge. Pass the jar to the next person, who after maybe a turn or two, pops the jar right open. Does the second person get all the credit? Or did the first person's muscle loosen it?

I think the attacks on Bush were much worse than either Clinton or Obama. As I said in another thread, I think we filter out some of the attacks on people we don't agree with and our perception is usually that the attacks on the person we support are much worse.

 

True, it is hard to discern who got it worse. I guess where I am coming from is you don't hear many attacks on Bush on talk radio and Obama/Clinton attacks are the daily agenda. When you hear it all day every day, it seems like there is much more.

Great point.

 

The problem is those on the left will never give Bush credit for anything and those on the right will find any way to discredit Obama's involvment. It's sad on both parts. Why we can't just say job well done by all and leave it at that.

 

:thumb: Bush deserves a lot of credit and Obama deserves a lot of credit. To make it into a sports analogy, Bush is Wayne Krivsky building the framework and fundamentals for this mission's success and Obama is Walt Jocketty taking it to the next level with focus and the right pieces to make it happen.

My view is both the Obama and Bush administrations deserve credit for taking out Bin Laden and of course all of our military deserves credit too. In other words, Clyde and I are in the same camp on this one.

In other words, Clyde and I are in the same camp on this one.

 

I'm going out to buy a lottery ticket right now...

True, it is hard to discern who got it worse. I guess where I am coming from is you don't hear many attacks on Bush on talk radio and Obama/Clinton attacks are the daily agenda. When you hear it all day every day, it seems like there is much more.

 

No argument here about talk radio which is why I've given up on it.