I think the appeal does have a chance for the simple fact that the appeal will be heard by a committee made up of the membership, not the NCAA staff.

 

Just recently, the NCAA staff ruled Masoli NOT eligible at Ole' Miss, and then their decision was overturned by the appeals committee. I am not comparing the facts of Masoli's case with Kanter's. I am simply stating that the two groups can have very different interpretations of the same set of facts.

People forget that the NCAA is essentially using indentured servants to make thier money.. You can come play and we will make millions on you, but you can't even go to dinner with a buddy who used to play for your team and him pay for it.. Europe has a totally different outlook on college.. College is only for learning and not athletics, club teams are the only opportunity for a lot of these athletes to play at a higher level.. NBA needs to repeal it's 1 year rule and you wouldn't see this happen.. The only rule for college ineligibility should be wether or not you have signed with a pro-agent and enter the draft.. If you enter the draft period, you should be ineligible.. Other than that, lets watch these KIDS play some b-ball...

 

I don't necessarily disagree with your post, but I would like you to clarify if you think it should be OK for recruits to auction themselves off to the highest-bidding college (boosters)?

I think the appeal does have a chance for the simple fact that the appeal will be heard by a committee made up of the membership, not the NCAA staff.

 

Just recently, the NCAA staff ruled Masoli NOT eligible at Ole' Miss, and then their decision was overturned by the appeals committee. I am not comparing the facts of Masoli's case with Kanter's. I am simply stating that the two groups can have very different interpretations of the same set of facts.

 

 

Good point.

Based on what I'm reading, I think the penalty was excessive. If the NCAA doesn't have a problem with the $33,000, but only that it was distributed to the family first, then why not just force him to sit X amount of games? Assuming, that's the whole truth.

That's where you are off base. The NCAA doesn't have a problem with the education expenses being paid for, they just require them to be paid by the club team and not distributed to the family first...

 

I'm a Duke fan first, everybody knows that. If this is what the NCAA based their decision off of, then IMO they got it wrong. That seems a bit nit-picky to me.

Jay Bilas gives his take here.

 

You have to be an insider to read that but it basically says that the NCAA decision is correct, but flawed.

Poor old Kentucky. Everybody, including the NCAA hates Kentucky. :rolleyes: :lol:

 

Well, we do know that you do anyway. :banana:

Laugh all you want to but it's pretty much the truth. !

:laugh::laugh: No fan base comes anywhere close to being as paranoid as UK basketball fans.

:laugh::laugh: No fan base comes anywhere close to being as paranoid as UK basketball fans.

 

You obviously have nothing better to do...

Do you mean here?

 

 

 

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or Here??

 

 

 

 

I find it odd that on the one hand, we slam reporters who use "sources" to report on Cam Newton, Eric Bledsoe, and Josh Selby, but will issue a free pass on the passages above.

 

Of course, he could end up being correct on appeal. I guess we will see

 

Nowhere in there did he say it was factual that he'd play or that he had a source that said he would for sure be eligible. I'm not a big Jones fan, but he gave an opinion on all those.

Bledsoe was a BCG recruit originally I believe. The issue with Bledsoe would have been Sandy Bell and the NCAA. Although IMO Sandy did the job right.

 

Absolutely nothing risky about Kanter unless you play him. Cal didn't.

 

From what I've heard, all of the other kids he has recruited are good academic students.

 

The "Cal is going to get us on probation" routine is getting old. He has done nothing here to warrent it.

 

As far as U Mass, my understanding is that he self reported Camby. The right thing to do.

 

The Memphis situation was the NCAA's fault. They cleared the kid to play, and Cal played him. It's garbage what happened to Memphis. Funny how the same thing didn't happen to Kansas the year before.

 

Excellent post!!

I think the appeal does have a chance for the simple fact that the appeal will be heard by a committee made up of the membership, not the NCAA staff.

 

Just recently, the NCAA staff ruled Masoli NOT eligible at Ole' Miss, and then their decision was overturned by the appeals committee. I am not comparing the facts of Masoli's case with Kanter's. I am simply stating that the two groups can have very different interpretations of the same set of facts.

 

It's very possible, the only thing that is different is this is a brand new rule where Masoli had like 19 cases just like his that had been decided just the opposite of his in the past 3 years. But it's certainly better for UK for there to be no case law than tons of case law supports the NCAA's decision.

It seems to me that there are a lot of situations where an athlete receives money but puts it into trust and still remains an "amateur". This definitely happens with Olympic athletes. Does this happen in the NCAA? I remember the Olympic skier that played football and there was some trouble about how his money was handled. That case seems similar to this one. I think the fact that all the money has been set aside or used for educational expenses gives Kanter some hope on appeal.

 

Are there any situations where grants and/or scholarship dollars are paid to a student or do all those funds get paid direct from the funding source to the college on the student's behalf?

It seems to me that there are a lot of situations where an athlete receives money but puts it into trust and still remains an "amateur". This definitely happens with Olympic athletes. Does this happen in the NCAA? I remember the Olympic skier that played football and there was some trouble about how his money was handled. That case seems similar to this one. I think the fact that all the money has been set aside or used for educational expenses gives Kanter some hope on appeal.

 

Are there any situations where grants and/or scholarship dollars are paid to a student or do all those funds get paid direct from the funding source to the college on the student's behalf?

 

It's different if you are paid for a different sport than you play in college. Florida State's QB when they won the title in 99 or 2000 whatever it was, had played minor league baseball for like 10 years before going back to college for football.

It's different if you are paid for a different sport than you play in college. Florida State's QB when they won the title in 99 or 2000 whatever it was, had played minor league baseball for like 10 years before going back to college for football.

 

Chris Weinke.