I wish the game was this year wanted to see a Williams and Elliot match up. Wonder where Williams ends up CF.

Indeed, this is Williams last year at Colerain. Interestingly, he's got the inside track to be the new QB so folks are going to see him in a completely different light.

 

He just recently picked up an offer from Kent State so he's going Div 1, no question. I can't expect he will get much more than MAC consideration. He's just to small for Big Ten play and believe it or not, he doesn't have the elite speed that the Big East teams look for either. Either way, his education is paid for as long as he stays healthy and is willing to play football four more years after high school.

 

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Ryle will stomp Colerain.

Indeed. :notworthy:

 

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Indeed, this is Williams last year at Colerain. Interestingly, he's got the inside track to be the new QB so folks are going to see him in a completely different light.

 

He just recently picked up an offer from Kent State so he's going Div 1, no question. I can't expect he will get much more than MAC consideration. He's just to small for Big Ten play and believe it or not, he doesn't have the elite speed that the Big East teams look for either. Either way, his education is paid for as long as he stays healthy and is willing to play football four more years after high school.

 

-CardinalsFan

 

You are dead on my friend. I spoke with some of my OSU guys and they certainly know who he is but I don't see him getting an offer unless a few guys in front of him say no. Best of luck to him can't wait to see him play next year.

Elliott is a nice high school running back but he is no where near as good as Miles right now.

 

I have mixed emotions on these games. On one hand I am glad to see Ryle step up but on the other hand this will be stepping too far up if Colerain is able to maintain their program. In other words, getting beat a zillion to 7 doesn't help a program much.

 

My thoughts exactly. It's nice to step up and play these teams but just because you play them doesn't guarantee coming close to beating them or later in the year beating the "bigs' in Louisville. Good luck though.:thumb:

I think this is a great game to schedule. What does Ryle have to lose? They are similar in school size. It can only make them better. After all, we are talking about 15 to 18 year old kids playing against 15 to 18 year old kids.

I think this is a great game to schedule. What does Ryle have to lose? They are similar in school size. It can only make them better. After all, we are talking about 15 to 18 year old kids playing against 15 to 18 year old kids.

 

Good Luck with that philosophy. Sorry but it is apples to oranges. Been there done that my friend. Actually just witnessed it. But that was enough for me.

 

Hey, I have nothing but respect for Ryle's decision and going out and scheduling teams like this, but if you go into it with that attitude, it will be ugly. Ryle should be able to compete. What does Ryle have in the pipelines in the next few years? I know Elliott but he will not win games by himself against the likes of Colerain. Who else is there and coming up?

Good Luck with that philosophy. Sorry but it is apples to oranges. Been there done that my friend. Actually just witnessed it. But that was enough for me.

 

Hey, I have nothing but respect for Ryle's decision and going out and scheduling teams like this, but if you go into it with that attitude, it will be ugly. Ryle should be able to compete. What does Ryle have in the pipelines in the next few years? I know Elliott but he will not win games by himself against the likes of Colerain. Who else is there and coming up?

 

Just out of curiosity, what exactly make Colerain's 15 to 18 year olds different than Ryles? I will say that it might be Ryle's 15 to 18 year olds against Colerains 17 and 18 year olds, but i dont think Colerain kids drink any magic water that gives them a competitive advantage.

 

The programs and number of kids in the program might be apples to oranges, but not the ages of the kids.

Colerain has 2,134 students and Ryle has about 1500 in grades 9-12.

Colerain has 2,134 students and Ryle has about 1500 in grades 9-12.

 

Colerain also has a more established football program.

 

But nonethless, it is still a great move by Ryle and a needed step to help elevate their program to the next level and compete with the 'Ville boys. I just don't see any downside to this at all.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly make Colerain's 15 to 18 year olds different than Ryles? I will say that it might be Ryle's 15 to 18 year olds against Colerains 17 and 18 year olds, but i dont think Colerain kids drink any magic water that gives them a competitive advantage.

 

The programs and number of kids in the program might be apples to oranges, but not the ages of the kids.

 

Is this a real question?

If so ... I will humor you with the answer ....

 

The 15, 16, 17, 18 year olds at Colerain are bigger (maybe not Tyler Williams--but he makes up for it in the speed category), stronger and much, much, much faster.

 

That is not opinion--it is fact--and is not intended to degrade the program at Ryle. It was an interesting scheduling move--that benefits Colerain in terms of Harbin points. It benefits Ryle because they get the opportunity to prepare for better compeition. Overall--it doesn't benefit Ryle as much as people try to say--because they will see an offense that they are not going to see again during their season. They will benefit from seeing a fast/physical defense that will not allow Ryle to work to their strength (running the ball).

 

Truth be told ..... Ryle's biggest gain here will be financial in nature.

I've got a kind of related question: Is there actually a "contract" signed for games like these? I know that games like the Crosstown Showdown involve contracts for advertising purposes, et cetera, but does a "big game" between two teams like this actually involve signing a contract, or is it just an agreement made between AD's?

Coach Warner really wants to take Ryle to the next level and they have a lot of young talent in the system. Colerain is a challenge, but a mismatch I don't know.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly make Colerain's 15 to 18 year olds different than Ryles? I will say that it might be Ryle's 15 to 18 year olds against Colerains 17 and 18 year olds, but i dont think Colerain kids drink any magic water that gives them a competitive advantage.

 

The programs and number of kids in the program might be apples to oranges, but not the ages of the kids.

 

I strongly disagree with you. Ryle would be much better suited to play a second or third tier Cincy team. Look at how Anderson embarrassed Boone County last year and Anderson is normally a second tier D1 team when they are in D1. Besides Anderson what about Turpin or Winton Woods or Glen Este or Mason or Milford or Fairfield?

 

All of those teams would probably beat Ryle but it would be a much better learning experience than playing a team they have no chance against that runs an offense they are not likely to see in 6A.

I strongly disagree with you. Ryle would be much better suited to play a second or third tier Cincy team. Look at how Anderson embarrassed Boone County last year and Anderson is normally a second tier D1 team when they are in D1. Besides Anderson what about Turpin or Winton Woods or Glen Este or Mason or Milford or Fairfield?

 

All of those teams would probably beat Ryle but it would be a much better learning experience than playing a team they have no chance against that runs an offense they are not likely to see in 6A.

 

But . . . Anderson was most certainly not a second tier D1 team this year and Boone was . . . well, pretty darn bad, to put it bluntly. Hard to predict the exact quality of teams a couple of years down the road, but Ryle will certainly be very strong next year and no reason to think they are going to drop to a 2009 Boone level the following year.

 

And as far as not scheduling one of those other schools, maybe they did try and it couldn't be worked out. If you're a school like Ryle looking to take it to the next level and a Colerain opportunity avails itself, I just don't see how it's a bad thing.

I strongly disagree with you. Ryle would be much better suited to play a second or third tier Cincy team. Look at how Anderson embarrassed Boone County last year and Anderson is normally a second tier D1 team when they are in D1. Besides Anderson what about Turpin or Winton Woods or Glen Este or Mason or Milford or Fairfield?

 

All of those teams would probably beat Ryle but it would be a much better learning experience than playing a team they have no chance against that runs an offense they are not likely to see in 6A.

 

I think that, generally speaking, most NKY teams would be better served easing their way into interstate play. I think there is a lot to be learned by playing the "second tier" teams before taking on the powerhouses. That way, there's some time to learn how to compete on the same field with Cincinnati teams without going and simply taking a pounding. A self-imposed learning curve is probably in any NKY team's best interest when going over to Ohio.

 

There is something to be said for being a better team by playing better teams, but at the same time, it's hard for players to learn many lessons (other than humility) when all they're doing during the game is picking themselves up off of the ground.