Could the real coward be those parents who take their kids to private schools to try to avoid the "riff-raff" that attend public schools?

 

This statement is too serious to not respond to. I am not sure of the definition of "riff-raff" but the make of our schools is varied in background and economic status. It is not an elitist mentality. In fact, the expectation and possibilities are equal for all who attend.

 

To find elitest mentality just look at the public systems that have created 'traditional' schools. By definition they have created a 2-tier elitist system. Male is Male in both academics and sports because Jefferson County wants it shining star and it ties the 2 together. The effect is obvious since Male is the the only Jefferson County public school to reach the State Football finals in recent years. So the officials at Jefferson County can point to Male with pride since they know there is no "riff-raff" is there.

 

I fail to see the connection of freedom of association in either private or public school settings and the lack of transparency by the KASS. Public officials who do not take a public, visable stand on key issues are not leaders IMHO.

 

Regarding the issue: IMO this recommendation does not address the heart of the problem which is recruiting as a whole and not a specifically public/private issue.

 

 

This is a very true statement.

 

However, the real issue is not illegal recuiting. I would bet that the supers know the pedulum, especially in the Bluegrass area and southern KY will continue to swing to privates in way of general attendence. And yes, this will drain current public schools of SOME talented atheletes. This migration or dilution of atheletes will happen to an extent even without ANY improper recruiting. And thus the affected public schools will be less competative. So what are supers to do in Lexington (where LCA is growing) and Somerset (where a new Christian schools set to come online)? The answer seems simple - villianize the privates and even materially hurt them if possible (Prop 2). The backers of Prop 2 lied and misled the press and public openly and blantently to try to ram it through. This pathetic boycott is likely the scheme of the same group but since they are all hiding in the shadows - who knows.

I would hate to see a public/private split. IMO the biggest problem is Trinity and St. X are so stacked every year. Its hard to compete. The private schools are going to have to walk a straight line (not do what LCA did) because really private schools, because of a lack in number, need the to not be seperated more so than public schools.

I am personally insulted by this comment. I did not work two and three jobs, & let my kids work jobs to help, for that silly of a reason.

 

Don't be insulted. It was simply a question to respond to the first page of posts where the word "cowards" was used several times.

 

I think there are a lot of parents who send their kids to private school because of religious beliefs - which I find legit. However, I also know of many parents who simply don't want their kids to be in the same classroom with kids from low socioeconomic backgrounds who can't afford the tuition to the school. To me - this is as weak as the recommendation by the KSAA.

Didn't know I would touch such a nerve with my question.

 

I will probably end up sending my daughter to private school when she reaches middle school. The main reason is because I am afraid. Afraid that she may be the next one to get beat up on YouTube just for the heck of it. Afraid that she'll be faced with many more situations where she will be pressured to make bad choices. Afraid that she will be in class sitting next to someone who could care less about school and the educational process - and who's parents see the public school system as a babysitting service. My question is, does this make me a coward? Would my child really learn more from being exposed to the troubles and trials of life in middle school? Would she benefit from sitting next to a kid from the projects or the trailer park? Would she be stronger from being faced with making decisions among peers who were not raised with the same value system she was?

 

I struggle with this - as do we all.

I guess I am confused. It's OK or at least most seem to be OK with it, that some kids that play basketball are moving quite a few miles due to jobs changes or connivance of their fathers job but it just so happens that they all play for the same AAU basketball team and all are moving to the same high school. But on the other hand, some are complaining that some kids go to school out of their district who travel less than ten/fifteen miles so they may attend a private school and the private are the ones that the public school are going to black ball! Doesn't anyone see the irony of all of this? Please tell me what I am missing here?

I haven't really seen it posted in this thread yet, but isn't this just basically the same folks that voiced their opinion a couple of years ago saying they wanted a public/private split? Somewhere around 80% wanted it but was shut down by the Board of Control? Seems to me like they are trying to take matters into their own hands.

I guess I am confused. It's OK or at least most seem to be OK with it, that some kids that play basketball are moving quite a few miles due to jobs changes or connivance of their fathers job but it just so happens that they all play for the same AAU basketball team and all are moving to the same high school. But on the other hand, some are complaining that some kids go to school out of their district who travel less than ten/fifteen miles so they may attend a private school and the private are the ones that the public school are going to black ball! Doesn't anyone see the irony of all of this? Please tell me what I am missing here?

You are not really missing anything.. The school you are referring to is just doing what the private school supporters have been imploring the public schools to do. Work Harder to attract the best students/athletes available to attend your school(within the rules of course) Nothing wrong with that, Public or Private...

Let me add for defense of public schools, that many many public schools, there is no reason to be afraid. What goes on there, goes on in private schools too.

 

Now, I guess you get to some inner-city schools, (that is a pure guess since many of you who are on here talking about being afraid seemed to be from the Louisville area) and it might be different but there is NO REASON to be afraid of many, many public schools.

 

In addition, research has shown that kids in public schools of the same background of kids in private schools either do as well or better than the kids in private schools.

I would hate to see a public/private split. IMO the biggest problem is Trinity and St. X are so stacked every year. Its hard to compete. The private schools are going to have to walk a straight line (not do what LCA did) because really private schools, because of a lack in number, need the to not be seperated more so than public schools.

 

If your world is all about 6A football, you would see that.

 

But there are many other sports out there that are having the same issue. Girl's sports are being dominated by private schools and other schools that draw from multiple communities.

Let me add for defense of public schools, that many many public schools, there is no reason to be afraid. What goes on there, goes on in private schools too.

 

Now, I guess you get to some inner-city schools, (that is a pure guess since many of you who are on here talking about being afraid seemed to be from the Louisville area) and it might be different but there is NO REASON to be afraid of many, many public schools.

 

In addition, research has shown that kids in public schools of the same background of kids in private schools either do as well or better than the kids in private schools.

 

While probably true that they are performing similarly, honestly the curriculum at privates are generally more advanced and can be a little tougher grading wise. This in my opinion, will still put that kid from the same background that is performing at the same level ahead of the kid at the public.

 

Why do I say that? Here is my story. I went to the city school in my area until the end of the first 6 weeks of 3rd grade. I then went to a private Christian school in the county through 6th grade. When I first made the switch it was tough school wise. It was way ahead of what I was doing at the city school. I left in 7th grade to go to the county middle school and was bored to tears. It seemed like a review of 5th and 6th grade. I was always a good student at every level, but I really feel like that private school education prepared me very well for high school, but I dont know that high school necessarily got me ready for college. I have to wonder if I could have gone to private high school if I would have been better prepared because the people I know from private schools that I went to college with seemed to do very well.

I have chosen to send my son with the "riff-raff'. He is the 4th to go that route. It is our choice just like the ones that made the sacrifice to attend a private school.

 

Public schools are not riff-raff. Like every school (public & private) there is riff-raff. Only thing different about private schools is they don't let the "riff get away with to much raff".

If your world is all about 6A football, you would see that.

 

But there are many other sports out there that are having the same issue. Girl's sports are being dominated by private schools and other schools that draw from multiple communities.

 

If you think about it though, Lexington schools have been pushing this for a long time. Who stands in the way of all the Lexington schools to keep them from winning a state title? Its Trinity and St. X. If Lexington schools did not support this then I don't believe this would be happening. I will say that LCA has thrown fuel on the fire as well.

If your world is all about 6A football, you would see that.

 

But there are many other sports out there that are having the same issue. Girl's sports are being dominated by private schools and other schools that draw from multiple communities.

 

Come on LLBC, do I have to point out in every post that you make about the multiple county thing, that there are other very valid reasons why the private schools are way ahead in girls sports? The biggest one being that for years, make that decades, the public schools put close to zero emphasis on girls sports. For years a lot of public schools resisted Title IX (and unfortunately some still do). A whole lot of public schools are so far behind the private schools in girls sports that it will take decades to catch up. And while the publics were resisting putting any emphasis on, and devoting much if any resources in, girls sports, the privates were out of necessity devoting major recources to girls sports. That is whose fault? We can say this is caused by the multiple county or open/closed situation all we want, the truth is the biggest disparity is caused by the past prior neglect of the public schools.

Or the public schools could CHOOSE to set their bar higher rather then CHOOSING to try to lower it to the detrement of ALL student athletes.

 

Are you saying this descision is unethical by the public schools? Its not against the rules. So if it is not against the rules, it must not be unethical. At least, that is the feeling that I have recieved from many posters on here in the past. On another subject, what do you mean by choosing to set the bar higher?

If your world is all about 6A football, you would see that.

 

But there are many other sports out there that are having the same issue. Girl's sports are being dominated by private schools and other schools that draw from multiple communities.

 

If you think about it though, Lexington schools have been pushing this for a long time. Who stands in the way of all the Lexington schools to keep them from winning a state title? Its Trinity and St. X. If Lexington schools did not support this then I don't believe this would be happening. I will say that LCA has thrown fuel on the fire as well.

 

I can state and feel 100% sure that the private school supporters on here will agree with me, that St. X and Trinity DO NOT stand in the way of any school winning championships in girls' sports.:sssh: