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Public schools to refrain from playing private schools

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Come on LLBC, do I have to point out in every post that you make about the multiple county thing, that there are other very valid reasons why the private schools are way ahead in girls sports? The biggest one being that for years, make that decades, the public schools put close to zero emphasis on girls sports. For years a lot of public schools resisted Title IX (and unfortunately some still do). A whole lot of public schools are so far behind the private schools in girls sports that it will take decades to catch up. And while the publics were resisting putting any emphasis on, and devoting much if any resources in, girls sports, the privates were out of necessity devoting major recources to girls sports. That is whose fault? We can say this is caused by the multiple county or open/closed situation all we want, the truth is the biggest disparity is caused by the past prior neglect of the public schools.

 

I have conceded and agreed with the point on girls' sports.

 

Not sure on that last sentence.

 

When LexCatholic wins back-to-back state titles in girls basketball and if I remember right they had one starter from Fayette County, that to me, is a unlevel playing field that many, many schools in the state cannot have.

 

Let me add, that many public schools have that same advantage.

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Come on LLBC, do I have to point out in every post that you make about the multiple county thing, that there are other very valid reasons why the private schools are way ahead in girls sports? The biggest one being that for years, make that decades, the public schools put close to zero emphasis on girls sports. For years a lot of public schools resisted Title IX (and unfortunately some still do). A whole lot of public schools are so far behind the private schools in girls sports that it will take decades to catch up. And while the publics were resisting putting any emphasis on, and devoting much if any resources in, girls sports, the privates were out of necessity devoting major recources to girls sports. That is whose fault? We can say this is caused by the multiple county or open/closed situation all we want, the truth is the biggest disparity is caused by the past prior neglect of the public schools.

 

I would have to disagree. The largest desparity is caused by the desparity in athlete draw. Why else are relatively new schools able to become so competative so fast.

You're happy that public school superintendents are cowards?

 

I am glad to see it as well. I think it is about time that the superintendents get involved and make a stand on the deal. I guess the cowards are at least not few in number.

That is your opinion that is not shared by many in this state.

 

If you want to get into a name calling contest, you could call the private school administrators cowards by not adhering to the basic setups that public schools adhere to.

 

I don't think either serves any purpose to moving this argument down the road to a solution.

 

But I do applaud the courage of the superintendents to try and do something about it despite knowing that a name calling contest was exactly what was going to happen to them.

 

:ylsuper:

 

I agree!

Or the public schools could CHOOSE to set their bar higher rather then CHOOSING to try to lower it to the detrement of ALL student athletes.

 

 

Than accept the sphere of influence proposel that was rejected by the private schools. That would limit the area of recruitment for those schools and make the compitition more level. And THEN, we could work on setting the bar together.......

I would have to disagree. The largest desparity is caused by the desparity in athlete draw. Why else are relatively new schools able to become so competative so fast.

 

Which relatively new schools are you referring to? Once you identify them, I'll respond. You may even be right in some cases, but I'd like to know who you are referring to before I respond.

I have conceded and agreed with the point on girls' sports.

 

Not sure on that last sentence.

 

When LexCatholic wins back-to-back state titles in girls basketball and if I remember right they had one starter from Fayette County, that to me, is a unlevel playing field that many, many schools in the state cannot have.

 

Let me add, that many public schools have that same advantage.

 

Why is it, in your opinion, that families are willing to privately transport their kids across multiple counties for them to attend school? Why would someone, in your opinion, be willing to foresake the convenience and cost saving of utilizing public transportation (particularly with gas as high as it is) to send his/her child to a public school in the immediate vicinity, to incur the cost, time and inconvenience to send his/her child across several counties and have to pay thousands of dollars in tuition to boot? I'd really like you/someone to logically and with good thought lay out those reasons.

Which relatively new schools are you referring to? Once you identify them, I'll respond. You may even be right in some cases, but I'd like to know who you are referring to before I respond.

 

LCA and Lexington Catholic to name a couple. Also, is it just coincidence that the most sucessful schools in the history of our state are either private or have an open enrollment? Or is it that they just do things a little better than everyone else?

I can state and feel 100% sure that the private school supporters on here will agree with me, that St. X and Trinity DO NOT stand in the way of any school winning championships in girls' sports.:sssh:;):p

 

Listen to what I am saying. Yes, some girls sports are being dominated by private schools as well. That is obvious. Now, what I am simply saying is that the big issue that has people upset more than anything is in football. And there is people upset with LCA and Lexington Catholic, but I think its a mix between football and basktball. But IMO the big issue is football.

Why is it, in your opinion, that families are willing to privately transport their kids across multiple counties for them to attend school? Why would someone, in your opinion, be willing to foresake the convenience and cost saving of utilizing public transportation (particularly with gas as high as it is) to send his/her child to a public school in the immediate vicinity, to incur the cost, time and inconvenience to send his/her child across several counties and have to pay thousands of dollars in tuition to boot? I'd really like you/someone to logically and with good thought lay out those reasons.

 

1) Religious reasons.

2) They have bought into the myth that private schools have better education than public schools. Or do you concede that NCC offers a better education than Highlands.;):sssh:

Listen to what I am saying. Yes, some girls sports are being dominated by private schools as well. That is obvious. Now, what I am simply saying is that the big issue that has people upset more than anything is in football. And there is people upset with LCA and Lexington Catholic, but I think its a mix between football and basktball. But IMO the big issue is football.

 

To football fans, the big issue is football.

For others, it is not. Girls basketball coaches have been talking about this issue for going on 10 years.

This just voices an extension of the "unwritten" boycott that has been enforced in Fayette County for years. The public systems are just hurting themselves. The private school programs will do just fine while the publics will have to find some other group to blame as their athletic programs, especially football, fall farther behind.

 

If you don't want to address the real issues needing to be resolved to make your programs competitive, just dodge the competition.

 

True. And the Fayette boycott accomplished exactly NOTHING except taking away from natural/geographic rivalries thus affecting the kids negatively. There is not a level playing field, and there never will be between small counties, big counties, privates, counties with multiple schools, etc. This is an example of politicians (and I include Superintendents in that group) trying to micro manage to please a few.

LCA and Lexington Catholic to name a couple. Also, is it just coincidence that the most sucessful schools in the history of our state are either private or have an open enrollment? Or is it that they just do things a little better than everyone else?

Lexington Catholic Formed in 1951 through the merger of two secondary schools, St. Catherine's Academy, founded in 1823, and Lexington Latin High, founded in 1924. Doesn't seem too new to me.

Lexington Catholic Formed in 1951 through the merger of two secondary schools, St. Catherine's Academy, founded in 1823, and Lexington Latin High, founded in 1924. Doesn't seem too new to me.

 

Ok, LCA. Reguardless, is it coincidence that the most sucessful programs in the history of our state have some kind of open enrollment?

Ok, LCA. Reguardless, is it coincidence that the most sucessful programs in the history of our state have some kind of open enrollment?

I think that question does deserve to be looked at, but Boyle Co. would show that, at least in Football, you don't need Open Enrollment to be sucessfull. I would be willing to bet that St. X and Trinity, due to numbers, would be sucessful no matter open/closed enrollemnt. And I must admit, I don't know everything about NKY, but isn't Highlands an Open Enrollment school located in an area with other open enrollment schools(not just neccessarily in Campbell Co.) that are not very sucessful?

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