I found this quote to be rather interesting:

 

 

 

Does that mean JC has taken in 15 transfers that are football players? At a time when other schools in the mountains are bleeding students?

 

I took that to mean that there were 15 players in JC's district that were playing elsewhere and now that he gets a few from outside the district, everyone is concerned or suddenly interested.

ADI has an article about the situation in the paper today:

 

http://www.dailyindependent.com/localsports/local_story_059233146.html

Of course, the story doesn't say why the kid is ineligible ... and given Matney's comments, why he would agree to take a two-game suspension.

ADI has an article about the situation in the paper today:

 

http://www.dailyindependent.com/localsports/local_story_059233146.html

 

How did Belfry get involved in this? Seems like they are trying their best to divert attention elsewhere.

Kids family is from Belfry/Williamson area originally.

Everyone is concerned about the one kid at JC, what about the hundreds of kids from other schools that played JC. It would seem to me that they were the ones treated unfairly.

Kids family is from Belfry/Williamson area originally.

 

It would seem that moving to Belfry would have been a logical move, as in going back home. So why go to Johnson Central when Belfry, year in and year out goes to the State Championship game. I don't know why he would bring Belfry up in the article.

Everyone is concerned about the one kid at JC, what about the hundreds of kids from other schools that played JC. It would seem to me that they were the ones treated unfairly.

 

How? By a sophomore backup defensive lineman?

It would seem that moving to Belfry would have been a logical move, as in going back home. So why go to Johnson Central when Belfry, year in and year out goes to the State Championship game. I don't know why he would bring Belfry up in the article.

 

It said because Belfry didn't have a wrestling team, so he decided on JCHS instead because of their wrestling team.

How? By a sophomore backup defensive lineman?

Or is he just one of several?

How? By a sophomore backup defensive lineman?

 

Backup? He started the Montgomery game.

I will once again take my normal stance:

This is not a public/private topic, as far as I am concerned. This is a right/wrong topic. And Johnson Central was obviously wrong. Until there is a more strict punishment, this will continue. I believe the punishment for any recruiting violation should be: disqualification from post season play for five years, $50K fine, and the player involved should be banned from high school sports in the state of Kentucky.

 

Seem harsh, but that will put an end to recruiting violations in the state. These measly fines will do nothing.

 

Well, I will agree and disagree with you. I agree that when violations are made the KHSAA should deal with the violators swiftly and harshly. However, when you say that J.C. was obviously wrong then I have to disagree with you. Just because the KHSAA fines you dosen't mean that you did something wrong it just means the KHSAA has the right to have an opinion stating they THINK you did something wrong. I am very very close to this situation and I know for a fact there was no recruiting violation regarding the young man in question. However, some higher-ups do not like Coach Matney so they had to look for some reason to harass the man and they USED a young man to go after the coach. Now, IMO that is a violation of ethics by the KHSAA. As adults we should be here for the kids and never use them as pawns and that is what happened here. The KHSAA messed up and costed this kid several football games and an entire wrestling season where he would have been a state finalist just to go after a coach that they don't care much for. I will say it again, they messed up and that is why the penalty was not so severe and that is why they didn't take the 8 football games the boy played in away from J.C. and why the young man will be eligable this summer and not 8 games into the season which would have happened if there really was a violation (think about it.........you all know i am right.........They messed up). It is a sad day when our kids are done this dirty and all we can think about is ourselves. With that being said, I think coaches,or programs or schools that recruit kids from other schools in any sport should be dealt with harshly. I also want everyone to know that I am not talking about private vs public issues here. I believe that the biggest percentage of private schools(just like public schools) do not go recruit players. I think parents of players seek these schools out because of the TOTAL advantages these schools can give to their children. As a parent myself, I will do everything in my power to give my children the greatest advatage possible, thats just the nature of being a good parent.

What exactly have they been through? I was at the last 3 JC home games and seen the young man not being able to participate but he is at as much fault as everyone else. I am amazed by the JC fans that will not elaborate on this subject and what they have been found guilty of... But continue to pay Mattney the money and things like this is going to continue to happen' date=' IMO....:thumb:[/quote']

 

Once again someone talking without knowing anything about what they are talking about. Know the situation before you talk about it. Besides, how in the world do you put any of the blame on the kid? That is totally rediculous! Even if there was some kind of violation (which there was not) the boy had no control over where his parents moved to. Some people astonish me with their misconceptions of things!

Well, I will agree and disagree with you. I agree that when violations are made the KHSAA should deal with the violators swiftly and harshly. However, when you say that J.C. was obviously wrong then I have to disagree with you. Just because the KHSAA fines you dosen't mean that you did something wrong it just means the KHSAA has the right to have an opinion stating they THINK you did something wrong. I am very very close to this situation and I know for a fact there was no recruiting violation regarding the young man in question. However, some higher-ups do not like Coach Matney so they had to look for some reason to harass the man and they USED a young man to go after the coach. Now, IMO that is a violation of ethics by the KHSAA. As adults we should be here for the kids and never use them as pawns and that is what happened here. The KHSAA messed up and costed this kid several football games and an entire wrestling season where he would have been a state finalist just to go after a coach that they don't care much for. I will say it again, they messed up and that is why the penalty was not so severe and that is why they didn't take the 8 football games the boy played in away from J.C. and why the young man will be eligable this summer and not 8 games into the season which would have happened if there really was a violation (think about it.........you all know i am right.........They messed up). It is a sad day when our kids are done this dirty and all we can think about is ourselves. With that being said, I think coaches,or programs or schools that recruit kids from other schools in any sport should be dealt with harshly. I also want everyone to know that I am not talking about private vs public issues here. I believe that the biggest percentage of private schools(just like public schools) do not go recruit players. I think parents of players seek these schools out because of the TOTAL advantages these schools can give to their children. As a parent myself, I will do everything in my power to give my children the greatest advatage possible, thats just the nature of being a good parent.

 

Why would the KHSAA have a beef with Matney?

However, when you say that J.C. was obviously wrong then I have to disagree with you. Just because the KHSAA fines you dosen't mean that you did something wrong it just means the KHSAA has the right to have an opinion stating they THINK you did something wrong

If Johnson Central and/or Jim Matney hasn't done anything wrong, why is Matney acepting the black mark on his record of a two-game suspension?

I am very very close to this situation and I know for a fact there was no recruiting violation regarding the young man in question. However, some higher-ups do not like Coach Matney so they had to look for some reason to harass the man and they USED a young man to go after the coach. Now, IMO that is a violation of ethics by the KHSAA.

Ah, a witch hunt ... who are these "higher-ups" that have it out for Matney?

We're not asking for the kid's name, address and social security number to be posted on here. A lot of us would simply like to know the specifics of the case ... what rules violations were committed and by whom?

 

I'll tell you this, the family moved to JC to be close to the grandparents of this kid because they are elderly and probably don't have many years left and because their oldest child just had a baby and they wanted to watch their gradchild grow up (no one recruited the young man). The first house the moved into (which is the adress givin to the KHSAA) had some flooding problems so the had to move into another place. When the KHSAA investigated some alligation on another issue they found that the addresses didn't match up. That is why they said the young man was eligible to play at the beginning of the season and then later in the year said he was not eligible. That is the backbone of this story. A lagetamite move for personal family reasons and not having anything to do with athletics or recruiting and then having to change houses for valid reasons due to repair needs of the 1st house caused the KHSAA's misconception (oh yea, the 1st house is still not occupied for the same reasons that this family moved out). So, as you can see the KHSAA messed up because of these circustances and instead of saying ooops we are sorry, they slapped a few wrists so they would not have to apolagize. The sad thing is, the kid is the one who got punished for this mistake!