ladiesbballcoach Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/nl/cardinals/2007-05-07-alcohol-ban-hancock_N.htm The St. Louis Cardinals banned alcohol in their clubhouse after the police report that pitcher Josh Hancock was legally drunk at the time of his fatal car accident. Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157%, nearly twice the legal limit, when his rented Ford Explorer slammed into the back of a tow truck April 29. Police also discovered 8.5 grams of marijuana in his car. "The one thing they have to understand is they're not invincible," Cardinals general manager Walt Jocketty said at a news conference. "They have to conduct themselves and make better decisions. … Unfortunately, Josh didn't make very good decisions that night." The Cardinals, who don't recall Hancock having a drink in the clubhouse after his last game, decided they will prohibit beer in their home clubhouse and stop providing alcohol on their charter flights returning to St. Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfordflash Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Maybe the rest of the teams will follow this example.Oakland did this last year I think.Kind of dumb to provide all you want to drink after the game and then go out and get in your vehicle to go home or somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvillecat Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I think it would be a wise move for all teams to follow this procedure. MLB needs to do everything it can to boost their reputation and the ban of alcohol in the Clubhouse is a good place to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 What's the bigger number: Number of players leaving the stadium drunk Number of fans leaving the stadium drunk ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 2 of 30 2000(Maybe thats generous, probably very generous) out of 30,000 You can't compare number like that when there is that much separation in size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 2 of 30 2000(Maybe thats generous, probably very generous) out of 30,000 You can't compare number like that when there is that much separation in size. Why did the Cardinals ban alcohol in the clubhouse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gametime Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Why did the Cardinals ban alcohol in the clubhouse? Public relations attempt to save face... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 So players don't get drunk and get in a wreck and die on the way home and because everyone wanted them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 So players don't get drunk and get in a wreck and die on the way home and because everyone wanted them too. Exactly. Lets now use your numbers. 2 players leave and are on the highway drunk. 2000(lets use 1000) fans leave the game and are now on the highway. See the faulty logic? This by itself tells me the "ban" is for PR only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammerTime Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Then Ban it everywhere if you want to use logic like that. Bars, house parties, Resturants you name it. And I really don't think the number is that great for people driving drunk at the game. Most people go with others and often times have a ride and some of the people don't drink more than 3 beers a game due to the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladiesbballcoach Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 Public relations attempt to save face... Heard a report this morning that maybe some of the BGP lawyers can attest to, that a employer can be held responsible if the employee gets drunk on alcohol the employer provided and then left the grounds and were involved in a drunk driving incident that injured/killed someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelCrazy Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Heard a report this morning that maybe some of the BGP lawyers can attest to, that a employer can be held responsible if the employee gets drunk on alcohol the employer provided and then left the grounds and were involved in a drunk driving incident that injured/killed someone. It makes sense to me, but I'm not a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Then Ban it everywhere if you want to use logic like that. Bars, house parties, Resturants you name it. . You have just made my point. The banning of alcohol in the clubhouse is PR only. If STL is truly concerned about the safety of the drivers of STL, they would not sell alcohol at the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet16 Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 You have just made my point. The banning of alcohol in the clubhouse is PR only. If STL is truly concerned about the safety of the drivers of STL, they would not sell alcohol at the games. THis could be said for all professional teams not just St. Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshs81 Posted May 8, 2007 Share Posted May 8, 2007 THis could be said for all professional teams not just St. Louis Obviously. However, STL is the current one in the news. Do you agree tht this is a hollow gesture since they allow fans to drink as much as they want for 3 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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