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2023-2024 Football Realignment

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9 minutes ago, Jason Bucklen said:

Why would they? Those other schools are closer to LCA and Danville! There is no way Beechwood will be in the same district as LCA. 

Joking, my friend! ?

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6 hours ago, GOREDDEVILS said:

That seems  to be a common theme for people to mix Russell Independent up with Russell County. 

And, Russellville.  Common problem. 

8 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

FYI - Looks like you are typing your reply inside the post you quoted instead of below it. That shows up looking like a quoted post with no comment.

Yeah I’m on my phone I can’t fix it even if I turn off my phone. 

12 minutes ago, gchs_uk9 said:

Joking, my friend! ?

Lol I know you are.

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27 minutes ago, Jason Bucklen said:

Yeah I’m on my phone I can’t fix it even if I turn off my phone. 

Hmm. Interesting. I-phone? I don't have that issue on my android. On my phone the cursor when quoting a post is automatically set below the quote for me to type in there below the quote.

16 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Hmm. Interesting. I-phone? I don't have that issue on my android. On my phone the cursor when quoting a post is automatically set below the quote for me to type in there below the quote.

For some reason when I click on the article it goes right to that spot. I can never fix it. I’m on an I Phone. 

55 minutes ago, Ram said:

And, Russellville.  Common problem. 

Yes it’s a common problem, I see it all the time on twitter.

1 hour ago, gchs_uk9 said:

I'm interested in seeing if any 2As choose to play up. At first glance, 3A looked to get a little easier and 2A gets a little tougher. However, one or two moves could completely recalibrate that.

With 2A adding Belfry and Glasgow, it definitely makes it tougher.  Crittenden County moving up and Middlesboro moving down, seems kinda like a wash to me. With 3A losing ETown, Paducah Tilghman, Ashland, Mason Co and others makes 3A look less impressive over all.  Adding Lex Cath, Central and Franklin-Simpson helps the top end of the spectrum, but not many others except maybe Bourbon County would be a probable top 10.  Knox Central would be in some years I’m sure.

4A is what got the biggest bump IMO and will be tough for good teams to crack the top 10.  Whoever is in the top 10 of 4A going forward will be really really good.

I’m excited to see how it all plays out!

17 hours ago, Breds82 said:

Quite interesting that Bracken Co move up to 2A. Are they having an influx of people moving into the county or is just one of those things this time around?

They are the smallest school in 2A with 1.3 avg. boys more than Newport.  They were going to be in 2A four years ago as well but Trimble opted to play up to 2A for travel purposes. 

19 hours ago, theguru said:

I realize it is just speculation (from the above link) but check this district out:

Beechwood, Bracken, Danville, LCA, Washington

That would kill Bracken’s football program lol.

Do we know what teams will probably play up?  That would help in our district alignment predictions. 

6 minutes ago, brooksville said:

Do we know what teams will probably play up?  That would help in our district alignment predictions. 

Christian County has stated that they intend to play up in 6A. The 6A classification only showed 31 teams in the KHSAA's enrollment release from December 5th, so that still leaves it a little unclear as to whether or not that means South Warren will be offered the opportunity to move back down to 5A as the smallest program in 6A.

The last time around Western, who had been slated for 4A, elected to play up in 5A. They're shown in 4A again in the release from the KHSAA, but I'm not positive that they will be playing up again.

Trimble County elected to move up from 1A to 2A in the last realignment. They are shown back in 1A in the release from the KHSAA, but they're another team I wouldn't be so sure will petition to play up again.

Central elected to move up from 3A to 4A in the last realignment. They are shown back in 3A in the release from the KHSAA, and they're also a team that may or may not elect to play up again.

I think there's a possibility that we see Lincoln County try moving up to 5A.

Not sure about anyone else....

 

10 hours ago, NateInSports said:

Former KHSAA coach Mike Shatzer put together a potential for each class:

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rh35JYjORB-9TrwkycnizyOVPX1JkfeagHkH6EGD7wQ/htmlview

Retired Oldham County/Jeffersontown head coach Mike Shatzer has what I'd call a fairly decent take on things for a "mock realignment".

Nothing official here, whatsoever. He takes into account the fact that Christian County has already stated that they will be petitioning to play up in 6A, but no other movement is taken into account - and we know there's going to be more movement.

Shatzer has no KHSAA affiliation as a podcaster/retired football coach. I could see some complaints from a few teams (Highlands and Beechwood, particularly), and I think there could potentially be some other shuffling around of districts in 1A and 2A. Again, though, this is all going to be changed once we get a look at who's petitioning to move up, and which teams will move down once other teams move up.

Another note I'd have is the fact that, per the KHSAA's enrollment release for the 2023-2026 realignment, Jackson County is not competing, but the enrollment release was showing Jackson County in 2A, and Coach Shatzer includes them as one of the four teams in his 2A District C.

Overall I think this is a great first swing at things, even though we know it will be different because of additional teams petitioning to play up.

CLASS 6A (32 Teams)
A. Campbell County, Great Crossing, Ryle, Simon Kenton
B. Pleasure Ridge Park, duPont Manual, Meade County, St. Xavier
C. Trinity, Oldham County, Eastern, Ballard
D. Male, Bullitt East, Southern, Fern Creek
E. Lafayette, Tates Creek, Frederick Douglass, Henry Clay
F. Bryan Station, George Rogers Clark, Madison Central, Paul Laurence Dunbar
G. McCracken County, Apollo, Daviess County, Henderson County
H. South Warren, Central Hardin, North Hardin, Christian County

CLASS 5A (39 Teams)
A. Boone County, Cooper, Conner, Dixie Heights, Scott
B. Collins, Scott County, South Oldham, Anderson County, Highlands
C. Iroquois, Atherton, Seneca, Moore
D. Bullitt Central, North Bullitt, Fairdale, Butler
E. West Jessamine, East Jessamine, Montgomery County, Madison Southern, Woodford County
F. Bowling Green, Greenwood, Warren Central, Grayson County, Barren County
G. Harlan County, North Laurel, South Laurel, Pulaski County, Southwestern
H. Owensboro, Muhlenberg County, Madisonville-North Hopkins, Graves County, Marshall County, Ohio County

CLASS 4A (39 Teams)
A. Holmes, Covington Catholic, Grant County, North Oldham, Harrison County
B. Paducah Tilghman, Breckenridge County, Hopkinsville, Calloway County, Logan County
C. Doss, Waggener, Western, Valley, Nelson County
D. John Hardin, Elizabethtown, Warren East, Allen County-Scottsville
E. Spencer County, Shelby County, Western Hills, Franklin County, Jeffersontown
F. Boyle County, Lincoln County, Russell County, Wayne County, Taylor County
G. Boyd County, Ashland, Greenup County, Rowan County, Mason County
H. Corbin, Letcher County Central, Johnson Central, Perry County Central, Whitley County

CLASS 3A (39 Teams)
A. Lloyd Memorial, Bourbon County, Pendleton County, Henry County
B. Christian Academy Louisville, Central, DeSales, Thomas Nelson, Bardstown
C. Union County, Webster County, Hopkins County Central, Trigg County, Butler County
D. LaRue County, Edmonson County, Hart County, Marion County, Franklin-Simpson
E. Lexington Catholic, Garrard County, Mercer County, Adair County, Casey County
F. Lewis County, Fleming County, East Carter, Bath County, Russell
G. Powell County, Magoffin County, Morgan County, Lawrence County, Rockcastle County
H. Clay County, Bell County, McCreary Central, Estill County, Knox Central

CLASS 2A (39 Teams)
A. Carroll County, Owen County, Gallatin County, Walton-Verona, Shawnee
B. Beechwood, Bracken County, Danville, Lexington Christian Academy, Washington County
C. West Carter, Breathitt County, Jackson County, Somerset
D. Martin County, Pike County Central, Shelby Valley, East Ridge, Belfry
E. Betsy Lane, Prestonsburg, Floyd Central, Leslie County, Knott County Central
F. Green County, Glasgow, Metcalfe County, Monroe County, Clinton County
G. Caldwell County, Fort Campbell, Murray, Mayfield, Todd County Central
H. Fort Knox, Crittenden County, McClean County, Owensboro Catholic, Hancock County

CLASS 1A (32 Teams)
A. Bishop Brossart, Newport, Newport Central Catholic, Dayton
B. Ludlow, Holy Cross (Covington), Bellevue, Trimble County
C. Kentucky Country Day, Holy Cross (Louisville), Bethlehem, Campbellsville
D. Frankfort, Eminence, Sayre, Berea
E. Paris, Fairview, Raceland, Nicholas County
F. Paintsville, Hazard, Pikeville, Harlan
G. Middlesboro, Pineville, Lynn Camp, Williamsburg
H. Fulton County, Ballard Memorial, Caverna, Russellville

1 hour ago, Nuke LaLoosh said:

With 2A adding Belfry and Glasgow, it definitely makes it tougher.  Crittenden County moving up and Middlesboro moving down, seems kinda like a wash to me. With 3A losing ETown, Paducah Tilghman, Ashland, Mason Co and others makes 3A look less impressive over all.  Adding Lex Cath, Central and Franklin-Simpson helps the top end of the spectrum, but not many others except maybe Bourbon County would be a probable top 10.  Knox Central would be in some years I’m sure.

4A is what got the biggest bump IMO and will be tough for good teams to crack the top 10.  Whoever is in the top 10 of 4A going forward will be really really good.

I’m excited to see how it all plays out!

I have heard Belfry will stay in 3a. 

8 minutes ago, Colonels_Wear_Blue said:

Retired Oldham County/Jeffersontown head coach Mike Shatzer has what I'd call a fairly decent take on things for a "mock realignment".

Nothing official here, whatsoever. He takes into account the fact that Christian County has already stated that they will be petitioning to play up in 6A, but no other movement is taken into account - and we know there's going to be more movement.

Shatzer has no KHSAA affiliation as a podcaster/retired football coach. I could see some complaints from a few teams (Highlands and Beechwood, particularly), and I think there could potentially be some other shuffling around of districts in 1A and 2A. Again, though, this is all going to be changed once we get a look at who's petitioning to move up, and which teams will move down once other teams move up.

Another note I'd have is the fact that, per the KHSAA's enrollment release for the 2023-2026 realignment, Jackson County is not competing, but the enrollment release was showing Jackson County in 2A, and Coach Shatzer includes them as one of the four teams in his 2A District C.

Overall I think this is a great first swing at things, even though we know it will be different because of additional teams petitioning to play up.

CLASS 6A (32 Teams)
A. Campbell County, Great Crossing, Ryle, Simon Kenton
B. Pleasure Ridge Park, duPont Manual, Meade County, St. Xavier
C. Trinity, Oldham County, Eastern, Ballard
D. Male, Bullitt East, Southern, Fern Creek
E. Lafayette, Tates Creek, Frederick Douglass, Henry Clay
F. Bryan Station, George Rogers Clark, Madison Central, Paul Laurence Dunbar
G. McCracken County, Apollo, Daviess County, Henderson County
H. South Warren, Central Hardin, North Hardin, Christian County

CLASS 5A (39 Teams)
A. Boone County, Cooper, Conner, Dixie Heights, Scott
B. Collins, Scott County, South Oldham, Anderson County, Highlands
C. Iroquois, Atherton, Seneca, Moore
D. Bullitt Central, North Bullitt, Fairdale, Butler
E. West Jessamine, East Jessamine, Montgomery County, Madison Southern, Woodford County
F. Bowling Green, Greenwood, Warren Central, Grayson County, Barren County
G. Harlan County, North Laurel, South Laurel, Pulaski County, Southwestern
H. Owensboro, Muhlenberg County, Madisonville-North Hopkins, Graves County, Marshall County, Ohio County

CLASS 4A (39 Teams)
A. Holmes, Covington Catholic, Grant County, North Oldham, Harrison County
B. Paducah Tilghman, Breckenridge County, Hopkinsville, Calloway County, Logan County
C. Doss, Waggener, Western, Valley, Nelson County
D. John Hardin, Elizabethtown, Warren East, Allen County-Scottsville
E. Spencer County, Shelby County, Western Hills, Franklin County, Jeffersontown
F. Boyle County, Lincoln County, Russell County, Wayne County, Taylor County
G. Boyd County, Ashland, Greenup County, Rowan County, Mason County
H. Corbin, Letcher County Central, Johnson Central, Perry County Central, Whitley County

CLASS 3A (39 Teams)
A. Lloyd Memorial, Bourbon County, Pendleton County, Henry County
B. Christian Academy Louisville, Central, DeSales, Thomas Nelson, Bardstown
C. Union County, Webster County, Hopkins County Central, Trigg County, Butler County
D. LaRue County, Edmonson County, Hart County, Marion County, Franklin-Simpson
E. Lexington Catholic, Garrard County, Mercer County, Adair County, Casey County
F. Lewis County, Fleming County, East Carter, Bath County, Russell
G. Powell County, Magoffin County, Morgan County, Lawrence County, Rockcastle County
H. Clay County, Bell County, McCreary Central, Estill County, Knox Central

CLASS 2A (39 Teams)
A. Carroll County, Owen County, Gallatin County, Walton-Verona, Shawnee
B. Beechwood, Bracken County, Danville, Lexington Christian Academy, Washington County
C. West Carter, Breathitt County, Jackson County, Somerset
D. Martin County, Pike County Central, Shelby Valley, East Ridge, Belfry
E. Betsy Lane, Prestonsburg, Floyd Central, Leslie County, Knott County Central
F. Green County, Glasgow, Metcalfe County, Monroe County, Clinton County
G. Caldwell County, Fort Campbell, Murray, Mayfield, Todd County Central
H. Fort Knox, Crittenden County, McClean County, Owensboro Catholic, Hancock County

CLASS 1A (32 Teams)
A. Bishop Brossart, Newport, Newport Central Catholic, Dayton
B. Ludlow, Holy Cross (Covington), Bellevue, Trimble County
C. Kentucky Country Day, Holy Cross (Louisville), Bethlehem, Campbellsville
D. Frankfort, Eminence, Sayre, Berea
E. Paris, Fairview, Raceland, Nicholas County
F. Paintsville, Hazard, Pikeville, Harlan
G. Middlesboro, Pineville, Lynn Camp, Williamsburg
H. Fulton County, Ballard Memorial, Caverna, Russellville

As mentioned earlier, here are teams and some others that look like misses on this list IMO:

Paris is a 2 hour drive to Raceland

Somerset is 2 /1/2 hours from West Carter

Beechwood is 2 hours to Danville with at least 6 2A schools closer

Rockcastle County is at least 2 1/2 hours from Lawrence County

Highlands and Scott look incorrectly aligned

 

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