Unlike you PP92, many to most Dems don't care that Hillary is a corrupt, nasty human being. They are going to toe the party line and vote for her, simply because of the D beside her name.

 

I applaud you for actually voting your conscience and not the party line. :thumb:

 

I vote the hand I'm dealt with. I seriously considered Johnson until he showed he simply wasn't able. Probably couldn't even name a foreign country. I just can't go there. If I were a conservative, it would be a no-brainer. I would vote for McMullin. But I am left to vote for the person who most closely aligns with my politics AND is capable and experienced enough to do the job. I have no choice. It has to be Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Trump can't get past 266, Dino. He can't win. Even if he wins all purple states(which he won't), name me a "blue" state he's going to take away. You can't . The game is over.

I never said Trump would win, so save your gloating for a Trump supporter. It is hard for me to believe that anybody planning to vote for a criminal like Hillary can feel good about their choice, but it is still a free country. It will be less so four years hence.

I never said Trump would win, so save your gloating for a Trump supporter. It is hard for me to believe that anybody planning to vote for a criminal like Hillary can feel good about their choice, but it is still a free country. It will be less so four years hence.

 

 

I don't feel as good as I would if it was Bernie, Joe, Lizzy, or countless other Democrats, but she's all I have. What do I do? Not vote? I always cast a ballot.

I don't feel as good as I would if it was Bernie, Joe, Lizzy, or countless other Democrats, but she's all I have. What do I do? Not vote? I always cast a ballot.

 

Always.

Unlike you PP92, many to most Dems don't care that Hillary is a corrupt, nasty human being. They are going to toe the party line and vote for her, simply because of the D beside her name.

 

I applaud you for actually voting your conscience and not the party line. :thumb:

 

I'm leaning more and more towards leaving the box unchecked for president on my ballot and voting the rest of the ballot. Gary Johnson has hurt himself a lot for me lately. If I vote it will be for Gary but I may just be like HB20 and not even vote for POTUS. I will vote for everything else though.

I'm leaning more and more towards leaving the box unchecked for president on my ballot and voting the rest of the ballot. Gary Johnson has hurt himself a lot for me lately. If I vote it will be for Gary but I may just be like HB20 and not even vote for POTUS. I will vote for everything else though.

 

Evan McMullin is another possible protest vote. He will be on our ballot as well as a lot of others. There are some that think he may even have a chance to win Utah (he's Mormon). Not necessarily endorsing that, but it's an option. I don't care what specific alternative people vote for, so long as they vote for someone that is not the D or R rep.

Evan McMullin is another possible protest vote. He will be on our ballot as well as a lot of others. There are some that think he may even have a chance to win Utah (he's Mormon). Not necessarily endorsing that, but it's an option. I don't care what specific alternative people vote for, so long as they vote for someone that is not the D or R rep.

 

That is a good idea.

I'm leaning more and more towards leaving the box unchecked for president on my ballot and voting the rest of the ballot. Gary Johnson has hurt himself a lot for me lately. If I vote it will be for Gary but I may just be like HB20 and not even vote for POTUS. I will vote for everything else though.

 

Going the Montgomery Brewster route.

Unlike you PP92, many to most Dems don't care that Hillary is a corrupt, nasty human being. They are going to toe the party line and vote for her, simply because of the D beside her name.

 

I applaud you for actually voting your conscience and not the party line. :thumb:

 

Just as most R's don't care that Trump is a narcissitic, egomaniac with zero political experience and jokes about sexually assaulting women. I'd argue that many R's are voting for Trump simply because he is a Republican. When both sides present a candidate with many warts, and are genuinely unlikeable, it's not surprising folks are just toeing the party line and voting for a platform rather than character, of which both candidates are sorely lacking.

PA, Colorado, or New Hampshire. Assuming he wins every contested state(the purples), he MUST have one of those three. The Trump team seems to think they can flip Colorado. I just don't see it !!!

 

I would be shocked if Colorado flipped.

I don't feel as good as I would if it was Bernie, Joe, Lizzy, or countless other Democrats, but she's all I have. What do I do? Not vote? I always cast a ballot.

 

And there is the reason I will cast a vote for Trump.

 

Mine is the anti-Hillary vote.

Just as most R's don't care that Trump is a narcissitic, egomaniac with zero political experience and jokes about sexually assaulting women. I'd argue that many R's are voting for Trump simply because he is a Republican. When both sides present a candidate with many warts, and are genuinely unlikeable, it's not surprising folks are just toeing the party line and voting for a platform rather than character, of which both candidates are sorely lacking.

 

You just described Hillary to a T.

Just as most R's don't care that Trump is a narcissitic, egomaniac with zero political experience and sexually assaults women. I'd argue that many R's are voting for Trump simply because he is a Republican. When both sides present a candidate with many warts, and are genuinely unlikeable, it's not surprising folks are just toeing the party line and voting for a platform rather than character, of which both candidates are sorely lacking.

 

Fixed that for you.

You just described Hillary to a T.

 

Now that you mention it, maybe I did. But that doesn't change the fact that the description fits Trump just as well. I understand that HRC is despised by the Right. But it also surprises me that so many have hung their hat on the Trump wagon despite his many warts....while he didn't destroy a bunch of emails, he's not exactly a shining beacon of morality.

Now that you mention it, maybe I did. But that doesn't change the fact that the description fits Trump just as well. I understand that HRC is despised by the Right. But it also surprises me that so many have hung their hat on the Trump wagon despite his many warts....while he didn't destroy a bunch of emails, he's not exactly a shining beacon of morality.

 

I agree, he is undesirable. He's not my first or even fourth choice.

 

He said things that were wrong. Hillary did things that were wrong.

 

Her wrongs are proven, his are allegations.