There's 2 sides to every story and the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle

I'm kind of surprised she was allowed to keep anything in her hands. I dunno it's just a sad, weird scenario right now. I feel like we are missing a lot of the story here. I'm not saying that any of those missing parts makes it a justified shooting. I truly don't know. It's just Strange.

 

Very strange. And from watching the video I don't think they saw her phone until after she got out of the car. Once she exited the vehicle is when she was separated from her phone.

There's 2 sides to every story and the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle

 

Agreed. How come the police haven't released their version of the events yet? Why does that seem to take a few days as opposed to instantly giving the policeman's account of the event?

Agreed. How come the police haven't released their version of the events yet? Why does that seem to take a few days as opposed to instantly giving the policeman's account of the event?

 

Rocket can help with the time frame. I know this sounds weird but I believe they say 48 hours is the appropriate time frame to elapse before everything can properly be remembered. It has a lot to do with the trauma of the situation and what comes after it. Despite how it's portrayed, killing someone is a traumatic experience, even when it's justified.

 

Also everyone is different. I've seen it mess up guys that were Iraq/Afghanistan veterans and had a lot of combat experience. I've also seen the opposite. Everyone is different.

Also, given the magnitude of the situation. You want to get it right. I can guarantee you that's been said down the lines, get it right. You don't want to ship off a report leaving out info or having people question stuff. Be as thorough as possible. The public wants/demands answers now, but really what they need is the truth and to make sure it's handled properly.

Agreed. How come the police haven't released their version of the events yet? Why does that seem to take a few days as opposed to instantly giving the policeman's account of the event?

 

Not shocking to me. They don't want to release any video that could cause possibly cause violence and want to get their ducks in a row before making statements etc. usually a local paper or news station has to press charges before the police will release any information. St Louis took forever to release video and that caused problems. Not sure why there is not a lot of screaming for more video to be released. Assuming they even had car cams or chest cams. Not even the call to dispatch has been released unless you believe the link you posted.

Several things I didn't know until I read the article.

 

They have raised over 221,000 so far on go fund me.

 

Gun was in his lap as shown by video.

 

It looked like the GF was driving but she was recording in reverse photo.

 

Not pulled over for headlight, but cop said for POI in robbery.

 

Guy did look similar to robbery suspect.

 

GF video has a lot of gaps in it and what she is saying isn't true.

 

And yeah because you work at a school with kids don't mean you don't break the law, read the news.

Maybe the Minn governor can now say those cops in TX wouldn't have been shot if they weren't white.

Castille had been pulled over 52 times in recent years for minor traffic violations.

 

 

Minnesota shooting victim Philando Castile was stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling? (w/video) | Tampa Bay Times

Castille had been pulled over 52 times in recent years for minor traffic violations.

 

 

Minnesota shooting victim Philando Castile was stopped 52 times by police: Was it racial profiling? (w/video) | Tampa Bay Times

 

If he was cited I don't see how there's much to talk about. If you break the law you'll be cited accordingly. It'seems not like he was stopped 52 times, told to exit the car and patted down each time. He was cited or warned and released.

 

I love the media tilt though, gotta ask if he was profiled. Not why the hell he was still driving with a revoked license....

Agreed. How come the police haven't released their version of the events yet? Why does that seem to take a few days as opposed to instantly giving the policeman's account of the event?

 

I thought I read when the girl in Boone County was killed, the officer had like 3 or 4 days to get report in. I googled it and came up with this article:

Police Chief Magazine - View Article

 

Pieces of it:

 

48 hour release window

With any law enforcement shooting comes intense media scrutiny. The best policy for all parties involved in a shooting is a 48-hour release policy. Neither the officer’s name nor the name of the individual shot should be released for 48 hours. This gives involved officers time to notify their families and arrange for temporary, secure accommodations if they fear threats or retaliation may follow. The 48-hour release policy also provides the department sufficient time to properly notify the family of the individual who was shot. A professional, timely media release issued by the head of the agency sends the message that this is a serious incident that will be handled with expertise and professionalism.

 

It will further benefit the law enforcement agency to send personalized copies of this release to stakeholders in the community to avoid dissemination of misinformation and to provide the community the names and phone numbers of contact persons for questions or concerns.

 

Officer Statements

 

Statements may be voluntarily given by the involved officer shortly after the incident or may be delayed on the advice of counsel. In those incidents in which officers do not voluntarily offer statements, they may be ordered by the department to give a statement. A compelled statement cannot be used in criminal proceedings, but may be used for internal review. It is important that the agency have ban agreed-upon policy with the union pertaining to the release of statements to avoid media and citizen scrutiny. This policy should require that the officer be subject to an interview within 72 hours of the shooting. This provides ample time for securing representation, sleep, rest, and reflection by the officer. The officer still retains the right to not provide a statement if the investigation focuses on potential criminal conduct.

 

Every effort should be made to conduct only one interview of the officer. It is important for the investigators to be fully prepared prior to conducting the interview. Providing one detailed statement to the agency’s shooting investigative team and the agency’s internal affairs division will avoid putting the officer through two questioning sessions. This will also eliminate the opportunity for a defense attorney to try to discredit the officer by finding slightly different answers to the same question asked in two different interviews.

 

Remember that under stress, officers may remember certain aspects of the incident and may not remember others. In general, the officers who returned to the environment can remember from about 50 percent to 70 percent of the significant details of the experience, while those trying to remember in a different place can recall only about 30 percent to 50 percent of the specifics.1 As a result, a physical walk-through at the incident scene might assist officers in their recollections prior to or during the interview.

 

How can agency leadership expect law enforcement personnel involved in one of the most critical incidents in their lives, who are operating under stress and fear, to remember what just happened in a rapidly evolving event? This is not a realistic expectation. What also must be realized is that civilian eyewitness testimony may be based on beliefs and values and may not be a fair replication of the actual facts. It is imperative to combine forensics with acquired recollections of involved and noninvolved individuals who are present at a critical incident.

Governor had this to say.

'''Appalled''': Minnesota Governor Says Philando Castile Would Be Alive If He Were White - NBC News

 

I find what the governor said almost immediately after the incident to be idiotic, outrageous and dangerous. So he admittedly did not know all the facts but made the statement that Castile would be alive he was white. Very inflammatory for the GOVERNOR to say that and there is no way he could have known that at that time. He said it for political reasons IMO and that is as wrong as wrong can be. Just disgusting.

Rocket can help with the time frame. I know this sounds weird but I believe they say 48 hours is the appropriate time frame to elapse before everything can properly be remembered. It has a lot to do with the trauma of the situation and what comes after it. Despite how it's portrayed, killing someone is a traumatic experience, even when it's justified.

 

Also everyone is different. I've seen it mess up guys that were Iraq/Afghanistan veterans and had a lot of combat experience. I've also seen the opposite. Everyone is different.

 

Also, given the magnitude of the situation. You want to get it right. I can guarantee you that's been said down the lines, get it right. You don't want to ship off a report leaving out info or having people question stuff. Be as thorough as possible. The public wants/demands answers now, but really what they need is the truth and to make sure it's handled properly.

 

Not shocking to me. They don't want to release any video that could cause possibly cause violence and want to get their ducks in a row before making statements etc. usually a local paper or news station has to press charges before the police will release any information. St Louis took forever to release video and that caused problems. Not sure why there is not a lot of screaming for more video to be released. Assuming they even had car cams or chest cams. Not even the call to dispatch has been released unless you believe the link you posted.

 

I thought I read when the girl in Boone County was killed, the officer had like 3 or 4 days to get report in. I googled it and came up with this article:

Police Chief Magazine - View Article

 

Pieces of it:

 

48 hour release window

With any law enforcement shooting comes intense media scrutiny. The best policy for all parties involved in a shooting is a 48-hour release policy. Neither the officer’s name nor the name of the individual shot should be released for 48 hours. This gives involved officers time to notify their families and arrange for temporary, secure accommodations if they fear threats or retaliation may follow. The 48-hour release policy also provides the department sufficient time to properly notify the family of the individual who was shot. A professional, timely media release issued by the head of the agency sends the message that this is a serious incident that will be handled with expertise and professionalism.

 

It will further benefit the law enforcement agency to send personalized copies of this release to stakeholders in the community to avoid dissemination of misinformation and to provide the community the names and phone numbers of contact persons for questions or concerns.

 

Officer Statements

 

Statements may be voluntarily given by the involved officer shortly after the incident or may be delayed on the advice of counsel. In those incidents in which officers do not voluntarily offer statements, they may be ordered by the department to give a statement. A compelled statement cannot be used in criminal proceedings, but may be used for internal review. It is important that the agency have ban agreed-upon policy with the union pertaining to the release of statements to avoid media and citizen scrutiny. This policy should require that the officer be subject to an interview within 72 hours of the shooting. This provides ample time for securing representation, sleep, rest, and reflection by the officer. The officer still retains the right to not provide a statement if the investigation focuses on potential criminal conduct.

 

Every effort should be made to conduct only one interview of the officer. It is important for the investigators to be fully prepared prior to conducting the interview. Providing one detailed statement to the agency’s shooting investigative team and the agency’s internal affairs division will avoid putting the officer through two questioning sessions. This will also eliminate the opportunity for a defense attorney to try to discredit the officer by finding slightly different answers to the same question asked in two different interviews.

 

Remember that under stress, officers may remember certain aspects of the incident and may not remember others. In general, the officers who returned to the environment can remember from about 50 percent to 70 percent of the significant details of the experience, while those trying to remember in a different place can recall only about 30 percent to 50 percent of the specifics.1 As a result, a physical walk-through at the incident scene might assist officers in their recollections prior to or during the interview.

 

How can agency leadership expect law enforcement personnel involved in one of the most critical incidents in their lives, who are operating under stress and fear, to remember what just happened in a rapidly evolving event? This is not a realistic expectation. What also must be realized is that civilian eyewitness testimony may be based on beliefs and values and may not be a fair replication of the actual facts. It is imperative to combine forensics with acquired recollections of involved and noninvolved individuals who are present at a critical incident.

 

That all makes sense to me but can we all agree that to the general public it seems fishy? One side of the story is immediately made public while the other side is delayed in release. As I stated I understand the delay. The general public may not always understand that or want to understand that. To the general public this delay in the release of their side of the story is to make sure everyone is on the same page once they go public with their story.

Not piling on the GF, but the first time I watched the video a couple days ago, I got the impression it was a Saturday night live skit. Maybe the weirdest video I've ever seen.

 

I'm not trying to hate on this awful tragedy, but I wanted to post this several days ago but refrained.

Several things I didn't know until I read the article.

 

They have raised over 221,000 so far on go fund me.

 

Gun was in his lap as shown by video.

 

It looked like the GF was driving but she was recording in reverse photo.

 

Not pulled over for headlight, but cop said for POI in robbery.

 

Guy did look similar to robbery suspect.

 

GF video has a lot of gaps in it and what she is saying isn't true.

 

And yeah because you work at a school with kids don't mean you don't break the law, read the news.

 

And the GF claimed he had a permit for the gun and was reach for his permit.

 

Of of course he looked like the suspect in the robbery. He's a black dude with braids and apparently a wide nose. Plus his GF smokes Newports and a carton of Newports was stolen in the robbery. Book em!!!!!!

 

Yeah, but working at a school and being beloved by your coworkers and the kids will grant you a hair more sympathy than being a convicted felon will. Ask Alton Sterling.