You? Hell' date=' I defended him to no end and nothing makes me more upset than defending someone and then being proved wrong(see Cordia). I can't take him seriously anymore and I am officially over him. I'm pretty much at the point that I don't want him at FSU anymore.[/quote']

 

:lol2: I can't tell if you're being serious. At first Jimbo was the idiot. Now this. In all seriousness, can yo clarify cause I want to know if should be laughing at sarcasm or take it serious that a die hard FSU fan wants a Heisman winner gone.

:lol2: I can't tell if you're being serious. At first Jimbo was the idiot. Now this. In all seriousness, can yo clarify cause I want to know if should be laughing at sarcasm or take it serious that a die hard FSU fan wants a Heisman winner gone.

 

You were able to witness my wide range of emotions on this situation. My first thoughts were about the game. It's Clemson week. Huge game for a team I'm shaky on. Why risk anything this week especially over something as stupid as this? As the day grew older and I was able to talk to other Seminole fans I find myself exasparated with Winston at this point and would rather move on now than wait for him to do something else that could cost the team on down the road. What if he gets arrested the night before the semifinal playoff game? It's crystal clear that he doesn't get it and likely never will. Why risk the status of FSU football over someone who can be replaced? He thinks he is irreplaceable and above the law and I don't see that attitude changing. I'd rather lose now with him gone than win all season and lose him in January because he is an idiot.

 

You got to witness my raw emotion and changing views. :lol2:

You were able to witness my wide range of emotions on this situation. My first thoughts were about the game. It's Clemson week. Huge game for a team I'm shaky on. Why risk anything this week especially over something as stupid as this? As the day grew older and I was able to talk to other Seminole fans I find myself exasparated with Winston at this point and would rather move on now than wait for him to do something else that could cost the team on down the road. What if he gets arrested the night before the semifinal playoff game? It's crystal clear that he doesn't get it and likely never will. Why risk the status of FSU football over someone who can be replaced? He thinks he is irreplaceable and above the law and I don't see that attitude changing. I'd rather lose now with him gone than win all season and lose him in January because he is an idiot. You got to witness my raw emotion and changing views. :lol2:

 

:lol2: sometimes you're sarcastic so I had to check

 

I agree, he doesn't get it and I'm sure he's cost himself top 10 draft pick $ and endorsements. I'm sure some QB desperate team will take him round one. Probably the Texans or Redskins

Win the game.

Let's all forget the fact that he is a 20 year old KID.... The only difference between what he does and other college kids is he is under a microscope. Does that give him the right to do this type of things? No, but he is a kid. I think all too often people try to holds kids to a higher standard if they are an athlete than we do the others. I don't think he needed to be suspended, it's only an "issue" because he did it, a normal student gets 15 mins of fame and then it's over. And to say you like Manziel but not Winston is crazy. They are complete opposites and Manziel was flashy and ignorant, Jameis is having fun. Go Noles!

Let's all forget the fact that he is a 20 year old KID.... , but he is a kid.

 

Tired and rote argument. No excuse for the very very poor choices he has made. So far he has shown the inability to learn from his previous poor choices. He's not 5 years old, he's 20+, time to grow up and start making smart, ADULT decisions.

Let's all forget the fact that he is a 20 year old KID.... The only difference between what he does and other college kids is he is under a microscope. Does that give him the right to do this type of things? No, but he is a kid. I think all too often people try to holds kids to a higher standard if they are an athlete than we do the others. I don't think he needed to be suspended, it's only an "issue" because he did it, a normal student gets 15 mins of fame and then it's over. And to say you like Manziel but not Winston is crazy. They are complete opposites and Manziel was flashy and ignorant, Jameis is having fun. Go Noles!

Please stop. He's a 20 year old man that is the face of the number 1 team in the country. He's an idiot and probably a rapist. You call out people for liking Manziel and not Winston but then say Winston is just having fun and Manzie was flashy and ignorant. Are kidding?

Tired and rote argument. No excuse for the very very poor choices he has made. So far he has shown the inability to learn from his previous poor choices. He's not 5 years old, he's 20+, time to grow up and start making smart, ADULT decisions.

 

Bingo.

There is a huge difference between Manziel and Winston. Johnny Football kept living his life as a spoiled rich kid knowing full well what the ramifications were for his actions. Winston thinks he is above the law and has no regard for any potential consequences for his actions. Big difference...

How do you answer that question w/o a rules violation?????

Not sure if it had been mentioned. But just say it deals with the same thing that some guy in Grant County (I believe that is where he is from) stated and was all over YouTube for, and now local TV station watch out for him during live broadcasts

Brett McMurphy tweeted that FSU announced Winston will be out the entire game against Clemson...

They had to do this with the national jabs they were taking. Not sure I would have said anything until game day anyway. Although with Maguire getting most the snaps in practice, people would have known.

 

I am not sure I like the court of public opinion making decisions, in fact, I don't like it. But $$$ talk.

FSU is sick of his crap and bad publicity, oh and he already won them a title.

FSU is sick of his crap and bad publicity, oh and he already won them a title.

 

Very true. Too bad he had two more incidents after that to make himself look really stupid.

This guy is clearly out of control. I'd kick him out of school.

 

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