Wonder if they belonged to the dasterdly teachers union

Wonder if they belonged to the dasterdly teachers union

 

That's uncalled for and inappropriate in this thread IMHO. As is anyone on either side of the political spectrum that would use this to push an agenda.

 

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Instead of banning guns, maybe they should ban the meds.

Zoloft, Paxil & Prozac and Other Antidepressants & Suicide

 

In November 1991, 66-year-old Barbara Mortenson attacked her 81-year-old mother, biting her more than 20 times and leaving chunks of flesh strewn on the floor. Barbara had been taking Prozac for the previous two weeks. Kristine Marie Cushing, age 39, had been separated from her husband for several months. In October 1991, she took a .38-caliber pistol and shot and killed both of her children, Elizabeth age 8, and Stephanie Marie, age 4, while they lay sleeping in their beds, then shot herself, inflicting a non-fatal wound. Prosecutors stated that they “couldn’t find one iota of information to show that she was anything but a very giving, caring and sweet human being.” After a plea of insanity, she was committed to a mental institution. What made her snap? She had been taking Prozac

 

When I first heard about the Columbine High School massacre, my initial thought was, “Lord help us, were they taking Prozac?” Nine days later, it was reported that Eric Harris, one of the shooters, was taking Luvox, which, like Prozac, Zoloft and Paxil, belongs to the class of drugs known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). In one out of every 25 children taking it, Luvox causes mania, “a psychosis characterized by exalted feelings, delusions of grandeur…and overproduction of ideas.”

» Mass Murders And The SSRIs Connection Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

 

Here are the last major school shooters and the link under each name is a reputable news source that connects them all with SSRI's (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) like Prozac, Ritalin, Zoloft, Luvox, Paxil, and others:

 

1) May 20 1999: T.J. Solomon, a 15-year-old wounds six at Heritage High School in Conyers, Ga.. http://add.about.com/health/add/library/weekly/aa052599.htm CNN Reports That T.J. Solomon was on Ritalin.

 

2) April 16 1999: Shawn Cooper, a 15-year-old sophomore wounds one at Notus Junior-Senior High School in Notus, Idaho. Boise Weekly Reports that Cooper was abused and medicated.

 

3) April 20 1999: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold kill thirteen and wound twenty three at Columbine High School. Washingtonpost.com: Teen Shooter's Life Paints Antisocial Portrait Eric Harris, The apparent leader of the attack had been on Luvox.

 

4) May 21, 1998: Kip Kinkel, a 15-year-old kills four and wounds twenty three at Thurston High School in Springfield, Ore.. http://www.drugawareness.org/washtimes.html Kinkle Had been taking Prozac.

 

5) March 24, 1998: Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Andrew Golden, 11, opened fire on their classmates and killed five and wounded eleven at Westside Middle School in Jonesboro, Ark..

 

Arkansas Online http://www.ardemgaz.com/prev/jonesboro/brygolden24.html Andrew Golden's Medical Records released to Courts but not open to the public!

 

From Jon Rappaport of the Truthseeker foundation: NFGCC: Help You Succeed A Doctor from Georgetown University commented on Network television that one of the boys had previously been treated for violent behavior. (Treated with what?)

 

AND According to Arianna Huffington the following events are linked to Anti-Depressants as well:

 

6) Julie Marie Meade from Maryland who was shot to death by the police when they found her waving a gun at them. http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/files/070998.html

 

7) Ben Garris, a 16-year-old in Baltimore who stabbed his counselor to death. http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/files/070998.html

 

8) Kristina Fetters, a 14-year-old from Des Moines, Iowa, who stabbed her favorite great aunt in a rage that landed her a life sentence. http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/files/070998.html

 

9) Pfizer, The Manufacturer of Zoloft is being sued by a Kansas family for the Suicide of their 14 year old son on Zoloft. http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/files/061099.html

 

10) The estate of Brynn Hartman, Wife of the Saturday Night Live Comedian, Phil Hartman, is also suing Pfizer, since Mrs. Hartman had been on Zoloft when she killed her husband and herself! http://www.ariannaonline.com/columns/files/061099.html

 

These drugs cause side effects like insomnia, anxiety, and agitation. (From The New York Hospital Cornell Medical Center), and sometimes suicidal tendencies especially with fluoxetine (Prozac). These results have been found in adults and some young people, but the best course for prescribing SSRI's to the young seems to be extreme caution.

School Shootings Linked to Psychotropic Drugs Such as Ritalin, Luvox and Prozac

 

I wish the names of these murderers were never spoken or written following the initial incident. Speak of them as "16 year old male" if you want to reference who they were. I don't know if publicity, perhaps immortalization, is a motivating factor or not but I say no publicity or recognition.

I understand what you're saying and I get it but what about churches, college campuses, or malls? I mean do you just plan on more people being armed at those places? This seems like the first time but it seems like more people are talking a out arming to protect and less a out disarming and taking away rights. It's interesting.

 

Churches, malls, etc are places people go to by choice. Schools are in a different category imo

The killers wouldn't be taking those types of meds if there wasn't something wrong in the first place.

Wonder if they belonged to the dasterdly teachers union

 

Classy...

I had to turn the channel last night watching that father of one of the perished children talk about his little girl. They were showing pictures of that beautiful little girl and she looked so much like my 6yr old daughter I just about broke down.

 

It's just godawful watching these folks go through this. I'm not a father but I am an uncle of 3 awesome nephews and I just couldn't imagine someone taking any of the 3. Just sick, sick, sick. As bad as it sounds it's enough to make you wish the shooter wasn't dead just because I don't know he'll ever get the kind of justice he deserved.

Churches, malls, etc are places people go to by choice. Schools are in a different category imo

 

So then you think every school should be rebuilt and fortified? And if so does it stop there? That's what I'm getting at.

The killers wouldn't be taking those types of meds if there wasn't something wrong in the first place.

 

Yet people are upset that the media is saying he was mentally ill.

Wonder if they belonged to the dasterdly teachers union

 

Wow !!!:ohbrother:

Wonder if they belonged to the dasterdly teachers union

 

Very uncalled for. Why would you even say that?

Edit

Apparently we can't even go a day on here before some start politicizing this tragedy.

 

" When we first collected much of this data, it was after the Aurora, Colo. shootings, and the air was thick with calls to avoid “politicizing” the tragedy. That is code, essentially, for “don’t talk about reforming our gun control laws.” "

 

 

 

Twelve facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States

" When we first collected much of this data, it was after the Aurora, Colo. shootings, and the air was thick with calls to avoid “politicizing” the tragedy. That is code, essentially, for “don’t talk about reforming our gun control laws.” "

 

 

 

Twelve facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States

 

I agree 100 percent. From the article:

 

Let’s be clear: That is a form of politicization. When political actors construct a political argument that threatens political consequences if other political actors pursue a certain political outcome, that is, almost by definition, a politicization of the issue. It’s just a form of politicization favoring those who prefer the status quo to stricter gun control laws.

 

But I'd also prefer to wait at least until the victims are buried before renewing the debate.

But I'd also prefer to wait at least until the victims are buried before renewing the debate.

Absolutely. Those who raise political issues, at a time like this, serve only their own personal agendas at the expense of proper respect for the grieving families.