July 23, 201214 yr By the time he gets 10 wins, Penn State will be off probation. :banana: I actually laughed out loud on that one. Good job Deuce!
July 23, 201214 yr They did accept it but for arguments sake.... I believe Emmert said it was a violation of Bylaw 10.1. How can they sue or appeal if they broke a Bylaw? Because it is an unprecedented direction the NCAA went with this. Bylaw 10.1 from what I know relates to ethical conduct but it is directed at lying to the NCAA in the course of a rules violation investigation. In this case there was no rules violation and I have not heard of anyone at Penn State lying to the NCAA. Anyone who felt the NCAA was too powerful with no checks in place to their authority ... this case greatly expanded the NCAA's scope and authority. You have players commit crimes, the NCAA can sanction you. It doesn't need to have anything to do with competition on the field.
July 23, 201214 yr Best part of the whole thing: The NCAA said the $60 million was equivalent to the average annual revenue of the football program. The NCAA ordered Penn State to pay the penalty funds into an endowment for "external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university."
July 23, 201214 yr Because it is an unprecedented direction the NCAA went with this. Bylaw 10.1 from what I know relates to ethical conduct but it is directed at lying to the NCAA in the course of a rules violation investigation. In this case there was no rules violation and I have not heard of anyone at Penn State lying to the NCAA. Anyone who felt the NCAA was too powerful with no checks in place to their authority ... this case greatly expanded the NCAA's scope and authority. You have players commit crimes, the NCAA can sanction you. It doesn't need to have anything to do with competition on the field. Gotcha. Makes sense. Both paragraphs.
July 23, 201214 yr Because it is an unprecedented direction the NCAA went with this. Bylaw 10.1 from what I know relates to ethical conduct but it is directed at lying to the NCAA in the course of a rules violation investigation. In this case there was no rules violation and I have not heard of anyone at Penn State lying to the NCAA. Anyone who felt the NCAA was too powerful with no checks in place to their authority ... this case greatly expanded the NCAA's scope and authority. You have players commit crimes, the NCAA can sanction you. It doesn't need to have anything to do with competition on the field. I'm still waiting for you to explain how this wasn't unethical conduct. Just because it wasn't one of the 10 points listed under the bylaw doesn't mean it doesn't apply. It clearly says unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or current or former institutional staff member, which includes any individual who performs work for the institution or the athletics department even if he or she does not receive compensation for such work, may include, but is not limited to, the following: Then it lists the 10 specific examples. But the description clearly leaves it open for other things as well. Again, please explain how it isn't unethical conduct?
July 23, 201214 yr So every single player from Freshman all the way to seniors can transfer correct? I see no reason why any player would want to stay.
July 23, 201214 yr Penn State's last officially-recognized football victory now occurred in November of 1997. The Nittany Lions' quarterback? You guessed it. Mike McQueary.
July 23, 201214 yr So was it 20 scholarships in total over a 4 year period, or 20 scholarships a year for 4 years?
July 23, 201214 yr Penn State's last officially-recognized football victory now occurred in November of 1997. The Nittany Lions' quarterback? You guessed it. Mike McQueary. Wow. You can't make this stuff up.
July 23, 201214 yr So was it 20 scholarships in total over a 4 year period, or 20 scholarships a year for 4 years? 20 scholarships over a 4 year period.
July 23, 201214 yr 20 scholarships over a 4 year period. How does USC lose more scholarships than them? That's weak as hell.
July 23, 201214 yr Because it is an unprecedented direction the NCAA went with this. Bylaw 10.1 from what I know relates to ethical conduct but it is directed at lying to the NCAA in the course of a rules violation investigation. In this case there was no rules violation and I have not heard of anyone at Penn State lying to the NCAA. Anyone who felt the NCAA was too powerful with no checks in place to their authority ... this case greatly expanded the NCAA's scope and authority. You have players commit crimes, the NCAA can sanction you. It doesn't need to have anything to do with competition on the field. I think the thrust of this judgment was the perpetual nature of coverup among the operators of the program. Your statement above that a "Player commits a crime . . ." is not relevant unless the egregious events are a pattern, habitual and covered up by the administrators of the program and the school.
July 23, 201214 yr So was it 20 scholarships in total over a 4 year period, or 20 scholarships a year for 4 years? 20 scholarships over a 4 year period. Pretty sure it's 20 per year.
July 23, 201214 yr How does USC lose more scholarships than them? That's weak as hell. No argument from me on that one. Fight On!!!!!!
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