October 5, 201114 yr Didn't realize they fared that well each year. They had Kansas, K State, Iowa State and Colorado every year. SEC West looks a little different...
October 5, 201114 yr They had Kansas, K State, Iowa State and Colorado every year. SEC West looks a little different... Do you have any idea how the divisions will break down? I'm confident the league will go to a 9-game schedule which will give a little flexibility in scheduling, but I honestly cannot envision a situation where Auburn moves east without Alabama, as some have proposed. Could Missouri go east and A&M go west, making even divisions without disrupting the current annual rivalries. This won't matter, of course, in basketball since they have moved away from divisions. But it could be interesting to see how basketball schedules in the future.
October 5, 201114 yr Author To preserve existing rivalries, the best bet would be to add Mizzou to the East.
October 5, 201114 yr Also, either division, it doesn't matter, the wins are a lot harder to come by than the old Big XII North. GT is right, Missouri burned themselves on this. They also hurt their recruiting in Texas, which is pretty key for them.
October 5, 201114 yr Here is the ultimate contradiction from what you start with to the end of the paragraph. Va Tech ran as fast as possible from the rivalry with WVU in large part because of the fan base, and the fact it is simply not safe for opposing fans to go to a game in Morgantown. When was the last time opposing fans ended up in the hospital in Starksville? When did opposing teams have to keep their helmets on at all times during games for protection against objects flying from the stands? The WVU reputation has been very well noted and earned over the years. No one wants to go there to watch their team play. Period... News Flash GT: That stuff happens at a lot of college games week in and week out. Not all WVU fans are bad folks just like all of ____________ (your choice of school in the blank) are bad fans. FYI - WVU and Va Tech quit playing each other because they went their separate ways due to conference affiliations. Just like Penn State and WVU and just like what will happen when Pitt joins the ACC. Week before last it sure looked like LSU fans wanted to come and watch their team play in Morgantown, and I met a lot of nice LSU fans, and I've met a lot of nice Auburn fans when they were in Morgantown. It's like this just becasuse one person has lied to me, doesn't make everyone a liar. Besides, when was the last time you were in Morgantown GT? Do I need to take you to a game with to let you see it's not my dad's Morgantown any longer.
October 5, 201114 yr You do realize even a place like UK (that has a crazy fanbase, leads the nation in attendance every year, etc., etc.) makes less money on basketball than it does on football, right? Honestly I didn't realize this. But I did find out today from a friend of mine the real reason football is driving this. Because football keeps all of it's money to share with the school and conference. Basketball is the NCAA's cash cow and why they NCAA is so tore up with all of this football re-alignment. Sort of like the rich getting richer and the poor getting more poor.
October 5, 201114 yr I think bringing up LSU fans as an example might not be the winningest argument.
October 5, 201114 yr What about Auburn agreeing to flip to the East? I thought that was floated? The league has done its best in the past to preserve cross-division rivalries. If you play a 9-game slate, 6 games are already spoken for (within your division). That leaves 3 other conference games. Moving Auburn to the east would mean the Alabama-Auburn game would be cross-division. Tennessee would almost certainly have to give up their annual game with Alabama (they currently are cross-division rivals and meet annually), something I just can't see happening. And I don't believe the Mississippis and LSU would want to lose their yearly game with Auburn. And one last thing, taking Auburn out of the west would mean no annual game with Texas A&M, meaning a hit on their ability to recruit in that state. I don't believe any involved would want that switch. For what it's worth, these are the current cross-division rivalries: -Alabama/Tennessee -Arkansas/South Carolina -Auburn/Georgia -Florida/LSU -Kentucky/Mississippi State -Mississippi/Vanderbilt It would seem fitting that Missouri and Texas A&M would maintain their current rivalry when they move into the SEC.
October 5, 201114 yr You may not see why Auburn wants to go to the East, but it was their idea. Personally, I can see why they're interested. I can also see why UK fans don't want it.
October 5, 201114 yr You may not see why Auburn wants to go to the East, but it was their idea. Personally, I can see why they're interested. I can also see why UK fans don't want it. Their idea huh? I didn't know that. I still don't believe it will happen, but that does throw a wrinkle in it. As a UK fan it doesn't matter at all to me. I've resigned myself to 3-6 conference seasons for the rest of my life, Auburn or no Auburn! And for all the people saying Missouri would be an annual win for Kentucky, well, those people are nuts. For 50 years there have been no annual wins in the SEC for Kentucky and Missouri coming in isn't going to change that.
October 5, 201114 yr News Flash GT: That stuff happens at a lot of college games week in and week out. Not all WVU fans are bad folks just like all of ____________ (your choice of school in the blank) are bad fans. FYI - WVU and Va Tech quit playing each other because they went their separate ways due to conference affiliations. Just like Penn State and WVU and just like what will happen when Pitt joins the ACC. Week before last it sure looked like LSU fans wanted to come and watch their team play in Morgantown, and I met a lot of nice LSU fans, and I've met a lot of nice Auburn fans when they were in Morgantown. It's like this just becasuse one person has lied to me, doesn't make everyone a liar. Besides, when was the last time you were in Morgantown GT? Do I need to take you to a game with to let you see it's not my dad's Morgantown any longer. Though I have heard stories from other fans and players, my experience in Morgantown last year was pleasant.
October 5, 201114 yr You may not see why Auburn wants to go to the East, but it was their idea. Personally, I can see why they're interested. I can also see why UK fans don't want it.Why? Because they are going to lose. Well, they are going to lose anyways.
October 5, 201114 yr The league has done its best in the past to preserve cross-division rivalries. If you play a 9-game slate, 6 games are already spoken for (within your division). That leaves 3 other conference games. Moving Auburn to the east would mean the Alabama-Auburn game would be cross-division. Tennessee would almost certainly have to give up their annual game with Alabama (they currently are cross-division rivals and meet annually), something I just can't see happening. And I don't believe the Mississippis and LSU would want to lose their yearly game with Auburn. And one last thing, taking Auburn out of the west would mean no annual game with Texas A&M, meaning a hit on their ability to recruit in that state. I don't believe any involved would want that switch. For what it's worth, these are the current cross-division rivalries: -Alabama/Tennessee -Arkansas/South Carolina -Auburn/Georgia -Florida/LSU -Kentucky/Mississippi State -Mississippi/Vanderbilt It would seem fitting that Missouri and Texas A&M would maintain their current rivalry when they move into the SEC. Realistically if they do not want to expand the amount of conference games they can keep their present schedule and take away one of the other cross-division game (not their annual rivalry one) and just rotate among the other cross-division teams each season. I would not expand the conference schedule because it lessens the chance of an SEC team winning the title. If you take the teams that play OOC rivalry games (Georgia-Georgia Tech, Florida-FSU, etc.), you are looking at potentially 11 games against high major competition.
October 5, 201114 yr Realistically if they do not want to expand the amount of conference games they can keep their present schedule and take away one of the other cross-division game (not their annual rivalry one) and just rotate among the other cross-division teams each season. I would not expand the conference schedule because it lessens the chance of an SEC team winning the title. If you take the teams that play OOC rivalry games (Georgia-Georgia Tech, Florida-FSU, etc.), you are looking at potentially 11 games against high major competition. I understand what you are saying and it will be interesting to see how it plays out. If you play 6 divisional games and one rivalry conference game, that only leaves one game. You would have six other schools in the opposite division and if you play one for two years, then you are playing most of the opposite schools twice and then not again for 8 years. I think the argument will be "What was the benefit of bringing in Texas A&M if you don't actually get to go there and play?"
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